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Midget Death Squad
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Would you draft this?
If so, which round?
Here are the 4 year numbers:


RB

Year1-
Rushing: 155 attempts, 565yds, 3.6ypc, 6TD
Receiving: 88receptions, 742yds, 8.4ypr, 2TD

Year2-
Rushing: 157att, 581yds, 3.7ypc, 4TD
Receiving: 73rec, 417yds, 5.7ypr, 2TD

Year3-
Rushing: 106att, 404yds, 3.8ypc, 2TD
Receiving: 52rec, 440yds, 8.5ypr, 4TD

Year4-
Rushing: 70att, 390yds, 5.6ypc, 5TD
Receiving: 47rec, 335yds, 7.1ypr, 3TD







RightHook
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re: Would you draft this?
4th round, maybe 3rd.

no reason for bush to be a 1st round pick.


stniaSxuaeG
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Member since Apr 2014
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re: Would you draft this?
1st round. Second overall.

(This is Reggie Bush)


Midget Death Squad
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re: Would you draft this?
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4th round, maybe 3rd.




Fair. Stats say 5th or later, but the talent potential bumps to a 4th maybe 3rd for me as well.


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Chad504boy
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re: Would you draft this?
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1st round. Second overall.


duh. i'm winning a super bowl with this guy.


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Spelt it rong
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Louisissippi
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re: Would you draft this?
This is exactly why you can't draft solely on statistics. The end result does not equal that of the effect he had on the game each time he stepped on the field.

ETA: I'm aware these are NFL stats. Also, where are his return numbers?
This post was edited on 5/24 at 10:08 am


Midget Death Squad
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re: Would you draft this?
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This is exactly why you can't draft solely on statistics. The end result does not equal that of the effect he had on the game each time he stepped on the field.

ETA: I'm aware these are NFL stats. Also, where are his return numbers?





So you're saying statistics, meaning what a player actually does on the field, don't matter? Based on these stats, where would you draft this player?


UptownnMike
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re: Would you draft this?
As soon as I saw the 88 receptions year one. Dead give away.


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Spelt it rong
New Orleans Saints Fan
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re: Would you draft this?
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So you're saying statistics, meaning what a player actually does on the field, don't matter?

I believe I said solely, so no, that's not what I'm saying. I'm simply stating that you have to take more into account than those numbers.
quote:

Based on these stats, where would you draft this player?
Probably 2nd or 3rd round based on numbers alone.


Midget Death Squad
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re: Would you draft this?
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I believe I said solely, so no, that's not what I'm saying. I'm simply stating that you have to take more into account than those numbers.



Fair enough.


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Probably 2nd or 3rd round based on numbers alone.



I think you are being very generous due to knowing who the player is. While it is quite obvious, the point of the exercise is to try and look strictly at the data and not the person himself.

I really doubt you would honestly select this player with a second round pick based on these stats. I think your fan bias is still influencing your choice.

The only telling number is the 88 receptions. That is a great number in and of itself; however, it didn't hold up over time, and the rest of the stats don't show anything to chance such a high selection.


Spelt it rong
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re: Would you draft this?
If I were the GM of the Saints and have prime Drew Brees as my QB, any back that can catch is heavily considered.

If I were the GM of the Jets, no way in hell am I drafting a pass-catching RB because he doesn't fit my scheme and my QB sucks.

I think this is a multivariate decision and simply resorting to statistics, though they are the ultimate foundation for quantifying a players' career, is unjust.


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Spelt it rong
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re: Would you draft this?
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4th round, maybe 3rd.

no reason for bush to be a 1st round pick.

Is this hindsight speaking? Did you watch him in college? He was absolutely fascinating and owned nearly everyone he went up against. To this day, everyone questions why he wasn't at least on the field as a distraction when USC failed to convert the 4th down and 1 against UT. From the time he stepped onto the field he required at least two defenders to key on him because he was that dangerous.


Weekend Warrior79
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re: Would you draft this?
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This is exactly why you can't draft solely on statistics. The end result does not equal that of the effect he had on the game each time he stepped on the field


This cannot be said enough. You cannot truly put a number to the affect he had on the passing game. When watching replays, you could literally see LBers following him as he went in motion and then we would have Colston or Moore come open right where the LBer vacated the space.

And as someone else alluded to, we won a SB because of him. If not for his performance in the AZ game, we may not win that game. Is that AZ win that was the 1st step to a SB worth a 1st round pick 3 years ago?


Mr.Perfect
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re: Would you draft this?
now add in the kicking game stats and the drawn double teams!!


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RightHook
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re: Would you draft this?
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He was absolutely fascinating and owned nearly everyone he went up against.


he went up against two decent defenses all year.

i thought he was a rich man's jarius norwood. that's pretty much what he was.

said he should be taken in the 3rd round, maybe end of second before the draft.


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El Campo Tiger
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re: Would you draft this?
Reggie! Reggie! Reggie!


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Northshore Saint
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re: Would you draft this?
Reggie impacted the game in more ways than as a pure RB. Durability was his biggest problem here. Seemed like everytime Reggie would get into a groove he came down with an injury that would linger for weeks.


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joshwj93
Member since Feb 2019
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re: Would you draft this?
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And as someone else alluded to, we won a SB because of him.

I'd argue that Pierre Thomas had more of an impact that year than Reggie did.


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ClientNumber9
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Member since Feb 2009
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re: Would you draft this?
What conference so I can judge level of competition.


Laman1978
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Utah
Member since Jan 2009
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re: Would you draft this?
Some of y'all clearly have tunnel vision. His numbers were underwhelming, yes, but he always had to be accounted for. Defenses played differently with Bush in the game. His unique skill set alone opened up our offense tremendously. He took enormous pressure off of our WRs, allowing Brees to exploit one on one matchups all day long.


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