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re: Why is Brees the considered the 3rd Best QB?
Posted on 12/13/11 at 12:50 pm to Mahootney
Posted on 12/13/11 at 12:50 pm to Mahootney
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How much of this was due to a poor running game or defense? 28th in rushing both years. 26th in defense in both years.
you are preaching to the chior, I HATE counting team accomplishments like that for or against QB's. I'm just saying its a factor. When was the last time NE had a losing record? 2002 i think (though they won 11 with Brady out for the year).
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I think Brees and Manning have more pressure on them to get a lead b/c their defenses are designed to play from the lead.
agreed
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until recently, Brady could say the same thing.
yep, Brady was getting credit for being elite when he really wasn't because the team did well. now that the D has deteriated, he's having to do more.
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Posted on 12/13/11 at 1:02 pm to ZZTIGERS
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ETA: Rodgers also is 5 year younger
he's also taller
Posted on 12/13/11 at 1:06 pm to Kafka
Rodgers also has the awesome double discount move.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 1:11 pm to Mahootney
It's a career thing. As long as Brady and Peyton are in the NFL, they are 1 & 2. If Rodgers gets another ring, he will be #3. That's just the way it is and I can't really argue it.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 1:12 pm to Chad504boy
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Rodgers also has the awesome discount double check move.
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Posted on 12/13/11 at 1:19 pm to liquid rabbit
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ESPN is the Tebow network right now. Before that, they were the Rodgers network. They're firm believers in overkill, mainly pandering to the big markets.
Denver and Green Bay?
Posted on 12/13/11 at 1:24 pm to St Augustine
"mainly"
Posted on 12/13/11 at 2:04 pm to liquid rabbit
I realize Green Bay has a national following, but since when are Denver (Tebow) or Green Bay (Rodgers) considered big markets?
Posted on 12/13/11 at 2:16 pm to MetArl15
They're not. Some saints fans have massive inferiority complexes even though they're 10-3 and considered one of the top franchises right now.
It's mind boggling but bitchers gotta bitch about something.
It's mind boggling but bitchers gotta bitch about something.
This post was edited on 12/13/11 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 12/13/11 at 2:20 pm to DoubleDown
quote:I wasn't. I was just asking why he always seems to be the odd man out.
It's mind boggling but bitchers gotta bitch about something.
There's never really a case for Drew one way or the other: why he should be #1-2 or why he should be #3. It just always seems to be a given.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 2:24 pm to DoubleDown
My penis is too big. :sniff:
Posted on 12/13/11 at 2:25 pm to Patrick O Rly
Well... now... I just feel awkward.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 3:04 pm to MetArl15
I didn't say Green Bay and Denver are big markets. I said ESPN panders to the big markets. In this case, they beat a dead horse over what they consider the "hot" QBs, and that's not Brees.
Watch ESPN's NFL show and see how many times they mention Tebow vs. how many times they mention the Saints.
Watch ESPN's NFL show and see how many times they mention Tebow vs. how many times they mention the Saints.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 3:49 pm to Mahootney
Smaller market, less historic franchise.
Saints are good for a feel-good story one year, and it's happened. The media will now resort back to the teams that bring viewers.
Saints are good for a feel-good story one year, and it's happened. The media will now resort back to the teams that bring viewers.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 3:54 pm to magildachunks
All I know is I wouldn't trade him for anyone period. The dude beat 3 teams led by Hall of Fame QB's to win the Super Bowl and should have been League MVP that year.
Has any other QB in history had to win against 3 teams with HOF QB's before? I could be wrong but I doubt it.
Has any other QB in history had to win against 3 teams with HOF QB's before? I could be wrong but I doubt it.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 3:55 pm to liquid rabbit
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liquid rabbit
C'mon man - surely you realize why folks are talking about Tebow right now, right? They're on a 6 game win streak and NO ONE considers him a "good" QB.
Yet. Dude. Keeps. Winning.
That's a national story. What would you prefer them talk about? Drew Brees and the Saints?
Yes? Ok, then what do you want them to ACTUALLY discuss to fill the air waves?
Here's my re-enactment of a story about Drew Brees:
"This is Jim Rome and here's my panel. Fellas, here's my question for the day - is Drew Brees good and will the Saints do good in the Playoffs?"
Every member of the panel: "Yes Drew is one of the top 3 QBs in the league today. Yes, the Saints appear to be the only team that can challenge GB for the SB this year!"
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and dead silence since no one argues that. In order to get media attention in todays world - you have to be controversial or something must be debatable.
Be friggin glad that no one is talking about you. Means your handling your business and carrying on.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 4:10 pm to Brageous
Rodgers is the best QB in the league.
Brady has the rings and Manning has the popularity and name, there you go.
Brady has the rings and Manning has the popularity and name, there you go.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 4:20 pm to DoubleDown
Can't argue much there.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 5:32 pm to Mahootney
Brees is 2nd behind Rodgers. Rodgers is playing lights out and will win league MVP this year. Brady whines too much
Posted on 12/13/11 at 5:39 pm to Mahootney
I saw a thing on First Take today where they asked Skip, Eric Mangini, and Kordell Stewart. QB they would take for the last 2 minutes of a game. They showed the QBR for the top 5 this year. Tebow was fifth with a bout a 75. Rodgers and Brady were 3 and 2, with I believe 87 and 91 respectively. Brees was 1st with around a 95. Skip Bayless picked Tebow, Kordell picked Rodgers and Mangini took Brady. I am not shocked at the choices, but no one even mentioned Drew. It was so bizarre since the stats were the ones they provided.
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