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Week 14 Saints snap counts: Kurt Coleman’s reduced role continues

Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:11 am
Posted by GMoney2600
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:11 am
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New Orleans Saints safety Kurt Coleman played a season-high 48 defensive snaps in Week 7 against the Ravens, but since then, his snap count has plummeted significantly.

The following game against the Vikings, Coleman played just 28 snaps. Then, he played 21 snaps against the Rams followed by 20 against the Bengals.

Since then, Coleman has played less than 20 snaps in four consecutive games, including just 14 in Sunday’s win over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

Vonn Bell has been the Saints’ primary strong safety since Week 2. In Week 1, Coleman played 37 snaps compared to Bell’s 30, but in Week 2, Bell played 40 snaps while Coleman played 23.

Still, Coleman had a sizable role for a while as he fell below the 20-snap mark just once in the first nine games.

Last Friday, coach Sean Payton compared Coleman’s role to that of a tight end or fullback because it could change depending on the opponent.

“A lot of it’s base and sub,” Payton said. “He's one of the three safeties. Some weeks it might be three safeties; some weeks it might be base, so it can fluctuate a little bit.”

It’s hard to argue with the Saints current defensive deployment. In the past five games, they’ve allowed an average of 13 points and 287 yards, and they’ve tallied 12 takeaways and 24 sacks.

For the season, Coleman has played 36 percent of the defensive snaps, which ranks 16th among defensive players. He has 25 tackles plus another on special teams.

“I think he’s doing a good job for us,” defensive coordinator Dennis Allen said Friday. “As with every week, each offense, a lot of times each week their personnel dictates who we play or who we put out in the field in certain situations. Like last week, we had a little bit more regular 21 and 12 (personnel) with Dallas, so there’s a little bit more there for Kurt.

“I think the good thing for us is that we feel comfortable with the safeties that we have and being able to use them in several roles. I think he’s doing a really good job for us. He’s done everything we’ve asked him to do, and there’s certainly a role for him to help us win.”

Wide receivers: Michael Thomas 58 of 64 (91 percent), Tre’Quan Smith 41 (64 percent), Keith Kirkwood 22 (34 percent), Austin Carr 14 (22 percent), Tommylee Lewis 13 (20 percent).

It’s clear Kirkwood has established himself as the No. 3 receiver. In four of his five active games, he’s played more snaps than Carr.

Defensive ends: Cameron Jordan 65 of 70 (93 percent), Alex Okafor 44 (63 percent), Marcus Davenport 31 (44 percent).

Even with Davenport being healthy after that toe injury earlier this year, Okafor remains the No. 2 defensive end. Davenport, a rookie, has played 50 percent or more in four of his 10 games this year, maxing out at 57 percent in Week 5.

Linebackers: Demario Davis 68 (97 percent), A.J. Klein 44 (63 percent), Alex Anzalone 40 (57 percent), Craig Robertson 1 (1 percent).

Anzalone has now played 57 percent or more in four of the past five games. His high mark in the first eight games was 53 percent.
Posted by unctiger4
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:20 am to
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Demario Davis 68 (97 percent), A.J. Klein 44 (63 percent), Alex Anzalone 40 (57 percent)


Amazing how the defense looks when we’re able to cover running backs and tight ends with these STUDS
Posted by lnomm34
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:27 am to
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Wide receivers: Michael Thomas 58 of 64 (91 percent), Tre’Quan Smith 41 (64 percent), Keith Kirkwood 22 (34 percent), Austin Carr 14 (22 percent), Tommylee Lewis 13 (20 percent).


Brandon Marshall 0 (0 percent)
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:33 am to
Posted by tgr4ever
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:39 am to
Demario Davis is so good. His impact can’t be understated.
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:42 am to
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Brandon Marshall 0 (0 percent)



When is he going to be active?
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:50 am to
Davis and a healthy Anzalone have completely transformed our defense.

Posted by King George
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:54 am to
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Demario Davis 68 (97 percent), A.J. Klein 44 (63 percent), Alex Anzalone 40 (57 percent)
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Amazing how the defense looks when we’re able to cover running backs and tight ends with these STUDS

Why isn't Klein's name in bold? He's been balling just as hard as everyone else.
Posted by GMoney2600
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:58 am to
I found this interesting...

Tyeler Davison - 29 snaps (41%)
Taylor Stallworth - 21 snaps (30%)
Kurt Coleman - 14 snaps (20%)

Coleman had less snaps than our 4th DT. Stallworth even rotates with Davison & neither of them usually play on obvious passing downs.

I don't mind Coleman b/c he's an experienced vet that doesn't usually screw up & give up huge gains. That being said...we should've been able to sign him for much cheaper.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 12:04 pm
Posted by Cheesy Beaver
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 11:58 am to
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Why isn't Klein's name in bold? He's been balling just as hard as everyone else.


some people here still think he's a bust
Posted by GMoney2600
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
14110 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 12:02 pm to
Klein is more of a run stopper. He's just pointing out the 2 LB's that are legit in pass coverage.

I agree though. Klein has been a beast against the run for most of the year. I thought Klein was going to have a bounceback year, then I changed my tune after he sucked in the pre-season & the 1st 2 games of the regular season. Glad to see him prove me wrong.
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 12:02 pm to
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Amazing how the defense looks when we’re able to cover running backs and tight ends with these STUDS


Big test this week with cmc.
Posted by bonethug0180
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Member since Jul 2018
4351 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 12:32 pm to
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Even with Davenport being healthy after that toe injury earlier this year, Okafor remains the No. 2 defensive end.


He's not fully healthy. He's just healthy enough to grind through it, so there is nothing to read into about his role. They still have him on a "pitch count".
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 12:33 pm
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 7:48 pm to
Coleman was such a bad signing. And this was such a buyers market for safeties this off-season too.
Posted by WDcajun
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 8:22 pm to
If you ever watch Kamaras highlight film from last year it would make you wonder what the saints saw in coleman.
Posted by GMoney2600
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
14110 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 8:31 pm to
Chances are that he either takes a paycut in 2019 or he's gone...

2019 cap # - 7.0 mil
Dead money if cut - 3.0 mil
Cap savings if cut - 4.0 mil

2020 cap # - 6.05 mil
Dead money if cut - 1.5 mil
Cap savings if cut - 4.55 mil

At least, Loomis gave us an out in the 2nd year of a 3 year contract. Not a ton of dead money to absorb. I like how the FO planned ahead.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 8:35 pm
Posted by mm2316
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Member since Aug 2010
6942 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 8:44 pm to
We definitely moved too quick, with too much money, on that one in hindsight. He was released before FA, so I suppose the felt the need to move fast.

The bright side is that his dead cap hit is only $3 mil next year ($7m if on the books) and $1.5 the year after ($6m if on the books). I just hope he's at least been a positive vet presence for our young DB group, which it seems like he has from a very outside point of view.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 8:46 pm
Posted by t00f
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 8:54 pm to
Excited about Kirkwood.
Posted by ulsaint
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:19 pm to
No way he stays next season at that price when we have lots of free agents to retain
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:43 pm to
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Anzalone has now played 57 percent or more in four of the past five games.


Coincidence that the defense has been drastically improved in the same time?

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ven with Davenport being healthy after that toe injury earlier this year, Okafor remains the No. 2 defensive end.


Could that have more to do with the fact that they just want to ease him back to avoid reinjury before playoffs.
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