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re: WBRZ-Footage shows crash that led to Will Smith's death (Hayes hitting Smith)

Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:22 pm to
Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:22 pm to
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I disagree. The original accident didn't appear to cause any damage to either vehicle. I vote it a .5.


You are arguing a half a point on a subjective scale of 1 to 10.

Posted by Red Stick Tigress
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:29 pm to
I would have and should have voted it a 0. No damage.

The only significance is that it likely pissed off Mr. Hayes.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:30 pm to
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from what I can tell smith got out first. hayes didnt have any light colored clothing on.



Bro, is this post serious? The Mercedes is completely shoved out of the frame of view. That door swinging open is on the Hummer. And don't pretend that you can see shirt color in that vid. Try to be objective.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:38 pm to
If you look at Smith's lips, he clearly says brother why you stopped so abruptly? You petrified me back there!
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:38 pm to
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That door swinging open is on the Hummer.


If you follow Smith's taillight, you can see at :15, that his door opening obscures the taillight of the Impala in front of him. You can also see the Hummer door open.

I think this video shows both Smith and Hayes exiting their vehicles about the same time.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:46 pm to
Boo, if you see all that, I'm sure your time and services would be much more appreciated inspecting Korean Nuclear plants for NATO.
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:48 pm to
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Boo, if you see all that


Follow Smith's taillight with your cursor.

The lights ahead/above will be from the Impala.

It clearly shows the lights in front of the SUV being blacked out by the door opening.

FYI, I'm not blind and my eyes are half a century old.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:49 pm to
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I think your confusion is that you don't understand how to interpret these videos.



Yea, no. Just because I don't share your speculation doesn't mean I'm wrong and you're right.

quote:

You've been wrong consistently.


That's just not true, but since you and LE and the Keebler elf keep repeating it, I'm sure you actually believe it. I was wrong about one thing, which I admitted after he other angle was posted.

quote:

A rational person (you are not one)


Again, not sharing your opinion doesn't make me irrational. But congrats on the flexibility to blow yourself. I hear that takes a lot of work to achieve.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:50 pm to
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The original accident didn't appear to cause any damage to either vehicle.


You inspected the vehicles?
Posted by diat150
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:58 pm to
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Bro, is this post serious? The Mercedes is completely shoved out of the frame of view. That door swinging open is on the Hummer. And don't pretend that you can see shirt color in that vid. Try to be objective.

if you can say that smith didnt hit hayes then i can say whatever I want. at least in the hit and run video it is absolutely clear what happened.
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 1:00 pm to
Now you're trolling and baiting.

I'll help you with your English:

Definition of appear (intransitive verb)

to be obvious or easily perceived;


I saw multiple videos/pictures of the back of the Hummer.

I'll repeat. The original accident didn't seem (synonym of appear) to cause any damage to either vehicle.
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 1:02 pm
Posted by WhoDat37
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 1:09 pm to
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Definition of appear (intransitive verb)

to be obvious or easily perceived;


I think you just hurt your own argument
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 1:11 pm to
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if you can say that smith didnt hit hayes



I didn't say that. Not even one time. You are projecting.

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then i can say whatever I want.


And you've just identified the problem with these Will Smith threads.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56871 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 1:20 pm to
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I would have and should have voted it a 0. No damage.



On a scale of 1 to 10?

quote:

The only significance is that it likely pissed off Mr. Hayes.



You are arguing with someone who rated that accident as the lowest possible value on the scale.

You are having trouble keeping up.



Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 1:22 pm to
I think there was contact.
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 1:22 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 1:23 pm to
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Red Stick Tigress



Your initials SR?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56871 posts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 1:24 pm to
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Yea, no. Just because I don't share your speculation doesn't mean I'm wrong and you're right.



You don't understand the difference.

I'm interpreting what I see. You were interpreting (incorrectly) what you assumed was the case even though you could not see in front of the vehicle. You=speculation. Me=interpretation. In the end, could my conclusion be wrong? Sure. It's possible. But there is a big difference between what you did and what I'm doing.

You are confused because you don't understand the difference.

quote:

Again, not sharing your opinion doesn't make me irrational. But congrats on the flexibility to blow yourself. I hear that takes a lot of work to achieve.



Blowing myself? I've drawn two very simple conclusions specific to this video. I'm not special for being capable of it. You are special for being incapable.
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 1:36 pm
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 1:25 pm to
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Your initials SR?



No.
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 1:36 pm to
There is a longer video, almost 5 minutes in length.

From The Advocate
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
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Posted on 4/19/16 at 1:38 pm to
From the Advocate article.

quote:

Footage from a couple of businesses on Magazine show Smith's Mercedes may have lightly struck Hayes' Hummer as the two vehicles were approaching traffic stopped at a red light before the Mercedes drove off and the Hummer followed.


Lightly struck. The two bumpers "kissed."

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