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re: Vonn Bell to Bengals on 3 yr deal

Posted on 3/25/20 at 5:17 pm to
Posted by ellishughtiger
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Posted on 3/25/20 at 5:17 pm to
The resident marine reported $18mm over three years.
Posted by Seeker
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Posted on 3/25/20 at 5:36 pm to
You don’t know what Bell’s original asking price was. It sounds similar to Ingram. Ingrams agent reportedly wanted 8+ million per year. The Saints said no and valued him around 5 per year. They gave him a deadline, he didn’t budge, so they signed Murray. Bell gave the Saints a price, the Saints said no. We signed Jenkins because we weren’t going to wait for Bell to realize his markets wasn’t what he was hoping it would be. Had we waited we may have missed on both. Smart business decision by the Saints FO and it is how negotiations should be handled.

The ball was in Bell’s court and he held out for a bigger payday. It didn’t work out for him and he was left with his dick in his hand.
Posted by LSU_30A
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Posted on 3/25/20 at 5:47 pm to
I’m happy Vonn got a nice payday and hope he does well in Cincinnati but he’s not irreplaceable. CGJ is the better player right now if you ask me and Malcolm Jenkins is a win now move that stabilizes the secondary. We have lots of talent but I don’t see Lattimore as a vocal leader out there and CGJ is too young. Jenkins value will be keeping the unit focused and in the right position to succeed on the field even if he’s a step slower than he used to be that won’t matter as much if he plays in the box like most expect. Also don’t write off Saquan Hampton he’s got all the tools to be a great strong safety in the NFL and he’s a physical big hitter like Bell and CGJ but in a bigger body than the others.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 3/25/20 at 7:20 pm to
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If the Saints don't get a compensatory pick next year we riot
well we signed Jenkins so we won't
Posted by partywiththelombardi
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 3/25/20 at 7:25 pm to
I dont think resigning your own factors into the formula

Losing Bridgewater, Klein, Bell, edit: forgot Apple

vs signing Jenkins + Sanders

Yeah we should get 1-2 comp picks from this

This post was edited on 3/25/20 at 7:30 pm
Posted by t00f
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Posted on 3/25/20 at 7:25 pm to
Outgoing free agents

3/16. Linebacker A.J. Klein: three years, $18 million. Klein gets a pay raise to join his old coach, now with the Buffalo Bills. It would have been nice for the Saints to re-sign him but not at this price. Klein’s departure would recoup a sixth-round selection in 2021 if the Saints qualify for any compensatory picks in next year’s draft. New Orleans must look for linebacker depth elsewhere with two projected starters (Alex Anzalone and Kiko Alonso) returning from season-ending injuries.
3/17. Quarterback Teddy Bridgewater: three years, $60 million. Bridgewater is finalizing a contract with the Carolina Panthers, where he will start in replacement of Cam Newton (who the Panthers have begun seeking to trade). It’s a great opportunity for Bridgewater even if he’ll be joining a rival team in the NFC South. This loss would qualify the Saints for a third-round compensatory draft pick in 2021.
3/18. Cornerback Eli Apple. Apple will join the Las Vegas Raiders, where he should start right away on the back end. His contract terms are not known just yet, but he figures to have been well-compensated.
3/19. Wide receiver Keith Kirkwood. It would have cost the Saints next to nothing to keep Kirkwood around, but the third-year pro lands in a friendly offense and coaching staff on a division rival. Because he was designated as an exclusive-rights free agent, Kirkwood will not factor into the compensatory draft pick formula.

Now Bell

Incoming free agents

3/18. Safety Malcolm Jenkins: four years, $32 million. Jenkins returns after spending the last six seasons with the Philadelphia Eagles, joining the team that first drafted him. He’s a big addition who brings welcome experience to a still-young Saints secondary, mentoring safeties Marcus Williams and C.J. Gardner-Johnson.
3/20. Fullback Michael Burton: one year. Burton is an experienced veteran who should be seen as the favorite to win this job in training camp, where he’ll compete with a younger teammate in Ricky Ortiz. Burton spent the 2019 offseason with the Saints and is already familiar with their offensive system.
3/20. Wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders: two years, $16 million. Sanders is the exact sort of receiver the Saints needed to add; a polished route runner who does his best work on timing-based plays, working in rhythm with his quarterback. The fact that he’s coming from one Super Bowl-contending rival (the 49ers) and chose the Saints over a few others (the Packers and Cowboys) only adds icing to the cake.

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Posted by sunnydaze
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Posted on 3/25/20 at 7:37 pm to
Bell was awful in coverage last year
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 3/25/20 at 7:37 pm to
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I’m happy Vonn got a nice payday and hope he does well in Cincinnati but he’s not irreplaceable.


It’s not that he isn’t irreplaceable.

It’s about value. I like Jenkins but damn dude got paid
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 3/25/20 at 7:40 pm to
Somehow all that equals the Patriots getting a 3rd
Posted by t00f
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Posted on 3/25/20 at 7:42 pm to
If we don’t sign anymore free agents we will get a 3 forTB
Posted by Vlatket
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Posted on 3/25/20 at 7:51 pm to
Looks like he pulled a Mark Ingram.
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 3/25/20 at 7:57 pm to
Good

Murray > Ingram
Jenkins > bell

Posted by GMoney2600
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Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:09 pm to
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If we don’t sign anymore free agents we will get a 3 forTB



That would nice for a change.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
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Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:11 pm to
Where is fun bunch
He swore vonn bell would get more than Malcolm Jenkins

This is really around what vonn bell is worth
Probably 7.5 a year but he waited too long
Posted by Chalkywhite84
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Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:15 pm to
It's sad you have to explain that to Lester earl
Posted by KajunKouyon
White Castle, LA
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Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:16 pm to
Von bell for Joe Burrow!
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:17 pm to
Jenkins got 16 for 2 years
That's not bad at all for a respected leader who can play 3 positions

Posted by t00f
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Posted on 3/25/20 at 8:28 pm to
quote:

Where is fun bunch


Looks like he got some proxy support.
Posted by CnAzInCA
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 1:57 am to
Just read that Bell signed with the Bengals for a little less than the Saints offered him. It sounds like the Saints made an offer, Bell wanted more, so the Saints signed Jenkins. Bell’s agent must have overestimated his value in the open market.
Posted by t00f
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 7:05 am to
That’s our thinking at this point.
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