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re: Vilma expected to get a 2-8 game suspension per LaCanfora.

Posted on 4/16/12 at 3:46 pm to
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 3:46 pm to
The NFL as a whole, is a corrupt monopolistic pyramid scheme focused around a barbaric sport that celebrates violence.

and you think the Saints would instantly become sanitized if they cleaned house?
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 3:48 pm to
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The NFL as a whole, is a corrupt monopolistic pyramid scheme focused around a barbaric sport that celebrates violence.


I might make that my sig line.
Posted by TulaneLSU
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 3:51 pm to
Good points. Maybe it's the NFL I should be boycotting.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 3:53 pm to
Boycott Saints Talk first. Thanks.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 3:58 pm to
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Boycott Saints Talk first. Thanks.



Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 4:27 pm to
Well said guys

Posted by TigerKnights
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 4:38 pm to
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Do the people really care about wins and losses more than integrity and virtue?


Don't act all high and mighty. The players weren't actually trying to injure anyone on purpose. It was just to encourage them to play harder such that if an injury occurred in the course of legal play they would get rewarded. Harder hits = more likelihood of potential injury. Pay for performance gone overboard sure, but not the same as physically assaulting someone.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 9:52 pm to
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Very surprising. How Spags handles the linebacker rotation/depth chart with Vilma in the mix will be very interesting.



Hawthorne at Weak
Lofton in the middle
Vilma strong I'm assuming.
Posted by MinnesotaTiger
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 9:55 pm to
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Sounds like a typical Vilma season.



+1
Posted by whodatfan
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Posted on 4/16/12 at 10:00 pm to
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Posted by TigerKnights
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Posted on 4/17/12 at 12:38 am to
quote:


Hawthorne at Weak
Lofton in the middle
Vilma strong I'm assuming.


Switch to a 3-4?
Posted by Patrick O Rly
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Posted on 4/17/12 at 7:40 am to
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Hawthorne at Weak
Lofton in the middle
Vilma strong I'm assuming.


Vilma really doesn't have the size to play SAM. He'd make a better WILL.

But honestly I don't know what the frick they're gonna do.
Posted by bountyhunter
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Posted on 4/17/12 at 11:15 am to
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Hawthorne at Weak
Lofton in the middle
Vilma strong I'm assuming.

quote:

But honestly I don't know what the frick they're gonna do


Really the only positions that Vilma can play is MLB or WILL. Lofton can play all three. I would shift Lofton to SAM, keep Vilma at MIKE, and Hawthorne at WILL. It's just my opinion but I still think Vilma is better at play recognition than Lofton, but he is pretty good himself. Either way it will be a good group, depending on Vilma's suspension. Good thing is Vilma will be nice and rested when he comes back off of the suspsension for the second half/end of the season.

I look for our record to be 4-4 before Vitt comes back. So we will have to make up a lot of lost ground.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 4/17/12 at 2:44 pm to
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WILL


There is no way Vilma can play Will. I will agree with you all day he is a leader and such, but he started breaking down last year, and has very obviously lost a step, and can no longer shed blocks from linemen. Will he be exposed by some of the faster TEs? Yes, but he will also be able to take on said TEs on exterior running plays.

Lofton is a better run defender than Vilma at this point in their collective careers, and thats why I would put him in the middle.
This post was edited on 4/17/12 at 2:45 pm
Posted by LooseCannon22282
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Posted on 4/17/12 at 5:38 pm to
Hawthrone played MLB and SLB in Seattle. My guess is that he will see more snaps in passing situations than Lofton. Not sure what to think of Vilma, I'm thinking he will be suspended 6 or 8 games.
This post was edited on 4/17/12 at 5:44 pm
Posted by efrad
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Posted on 4/17/12 at 5:59 pm to
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Do the people really care about wins and losses more than integrity and virtue?


This is fricking football. Hard hits and roughness are what the game is made of.

We don't apologize for how we play.















Posted by bountyhunter
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Posted on 4/17/12 at 6:01 pm to
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he started breaking down last year


He had a bad year, yes. My wager is that he never got to a good, playable state post-injury at any point in the season.

I agree, based on last year, moving Lofton in at MLB may be the logical choice. I do not think it is the correct one. By the time Vilma is back he will be ready to go and I don't think he'll miss a beat.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 4/17/12 at 8:24 pm to
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I agree, based on last year, moving Lofton in at MLB may be the logical choice. I do not think it is the correct one. By the time Vilma is back he will be ready to go and I don't think he'll miss a beat.


I can see that, and for Vilma's sake I hope its true. He reminds me of a poor man's Teddy Bruschi. Helluva leader, fantastic instincts, just not the crazy great athletic ability some people have.
Posted by bountyhunter
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Posted on 4/17/12 at 9:19 pm to
I think with experienced and talented guys beside him at
LB, he is able to do more play recognition and be the opportunistic player we saw in '09. Fujita was a huge asset in 2009.
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