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Updated Brees vs Rodgers (The Head to Head Argument)
Posted on 7/30/18 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 7/30/18 at 7:34 pm
I am so tired of hearing the comparison of Brees vs Rodgers and how Rodgers is SO much better than Brees. You can call me a homer but here it is in print.
Head to Head Matchups
Monday 11/24/08 @ N.O.
Saints Win 51 - 29 (my first ever Saints game)
Brees 20/26 323yds 4TDs / 0INTs
Rodgers 23/41 248yds 2TDs / 3INTs
Thursday 9/8/11 @ G.B.
Packers Win 42 - 34
Brees 32/49 419yds 3TDs / 0INTs
Rodgers 27/35 312yds 3TDs / 0INTs
Sunday 9/30/12 @ G.B.
Packers Win 28 - 27
Brees 35/54 446yds 3TDs / 0INTs
Rodgers 31/41 319yds 4TDs / 1INT
Sunday Night 10/26/14 @ N.O.
Saints Win 44 - 23
Brees 27/32 311yds 3TDs / 0INTs
Rodgers 28/39 418yds 1TD / 2INTs
Head to Head (2 - 2)
Both QBs at Home (2 - 0)
QB Stats for those 4 Gms
Brees 114/161 (70.8%)
1,499 pass yds 13TDs / 0INTs
Passer Rating 126.8
Rodgers 109/156 (69.9%)
1,297 pass yds 10TDs / 6INTs
Passer Rating 100.3
Since '08 Season (Rodgers' first season as starter)
Regular Season Games Started
Brees 158 / 160
Rodgers 142 / 160
Regular Season Record
Brees (95 - 63)
Rodgers (94 - 48)
Regular Season Comp/Att
Brees 4,301 / 6,279 (68.5%)
Rodgers 3,153 / 4,836 (65.2%)
Regular Season Passing Yds
Brees 49,256yds
Rodgers 38,173yds
Regular Season TDs/INTs
Brees 354 / 146
Rodgers 312 / 77
Regular Season TD/INT Ratio
Brees 2.4
Rodgers 4.1
Regular Season Yds/Comp
Brees 11.5
Rodgers 12.1
Regular Season Passer Rating
Brees 101.0
Rodgers 104.2
Regular Season 4th Qtr Comebacks
Brees 21
Rodgers 11
Regular Season Game Winning Drives
(4th Qtr or OT game where winning team went ahead for last time)
Brees 29
Rodgers 17
Regular Season Sacks Taken
Brees 252
Rodgers 354
Regular Season Avg Team Defense Ranking (10 seasons)
Brees 20th Ranked Def
Rodgers 16th Ranked Def
Brees' Accolades since '06
Led League in Passing Yds
'06 '08 '11 '12 '14 '15 '16 (7 times)
Led League in Passing TDs
'08 '09 '11 '12 (4 times)
NFL Regular Season MVP
0 times (what a sham)
Division Titles
'06 '09 '11 '17 (4 times)
Playoff Record
(7 - 5)
SB XLIV Champion & MVP
Pro Bowl WRs
2017 M. Thomas (1)
Rodgers' Accolades since '08
Led League in Passing Yds
(0 times)
Led League in Passing TDs
'16 (1 time)
NFL Regular Season MVP
'11 '14 (2 times)
Division Titles
'11 '12 '13 '14 '16 (5 times)
Playoff Record
(9 - 7)
SB XLV Champion & MVP
Pro Bowl WRs
2010 G. Jennings
2011 G. Jennings
2014 R. Cobb
2014 J. Nelson
2017 D. Adams (5)
If being completely unbiased, its a PUSH between the QBs at this point.
I deleted my previous rant because most of you don't want to read nor care. For the record, I am not a Rodgers hater and I do respect the man. Just not convinced that Brees is no longer in the same class/tier with Aaron Rodgers anymore.
2017 put the league on notice.
Forget #12 (both of them).
2018 is for #9.
Let me hear your thoughts Saints fans.
Head to Head Matchups
Monday 11/24/08 @ N.O.
Saints Win 51 - 29 (my first ever Saints game)
Brees 20/26 323yds 4TDs / 0INTs
Rodgers 23/41 248yds 2TDs / 3INTs
Thursday 9/8/11 @ G.B.
Packers Win 42 - 34
Brees 32/49 419yds 3TDs / 0INTs
Rodgers 27/35 312yds 3TDs / 0INTs
Sunday 9/30/12 @ G.B.
Packers Win 28 - 27
Brees 35/54 446yds 3TDs / 0INTs
Rodgers 31/41 319yds 4TDs / 1INT
Sunday Night 10/26/14 @ N.O.
Saints Win 44 - 23
Brees 27/32 311yds 3TDs / 0INTs
Rodgers 28/39 418yds 1TD / 2INTs
Head to Head (2 - 2)
Both QBs at Home (2 - 0)
QB Stats for those 4 Gms
Brees 114/161 (70.8%)
1,499 pass yds 13TDs / 0INTs
Passer Rating 126.8
Rodgers 109/156 (69.9%)
1,297 pass yds 10TDs / 6INTs
Passer Rating 100.3
Since '08 Season (Rodgers' first season as starter)
Regular Season Games Started
Brees 158 / 160
Rodgers 142 / 160
Regular Season Record
Brees (95 - 63)
Rodgers (94 - 48)
Regular Season Comp/Att
Brees 4,301 / 6,279 (68.5%)
Rodgers 3,153 / 4,836 (65.2%)
Regular Season Passing Yds
Brees 49,256yds
Rodgers 38,173yds
Regular Season TDs/INTs
Brees 354 / 146
Rodgers 312 / 77
Regular Season TD/INT Ratio
Brees 2.4
Rodgers 4.1
Regular Season Yds/Comp
Brees 11.5
Rodgers 12.1
Regular Season Passer Rating
Brees 101.0
Rodgers 104.2
Regular Season 4th Qtr Comebacks
Brees 21
Rodgers 11
Regular Season Game Winning Drives
(4th Qtr or OT game where winning team went ahead for last time)
Brees 29
Rodgers 17
Regular Season Sacks Taken
Brees 252
Rodgers 354
Regular Season Avg Team Defense Ranking (10 seasons)
Brees 20th Ranked Def
Rodgers 16th Ranked Def
Brees' Accolades since '06
Led League in Passing Yds
'06 '08 '11 '12 '14 '15 '16 (7 times)
Led League in Passing TDs
'08 '09 '11 '12 (4 times)
NFL Regular Season MVP
0 times (what a sham)
Division Titles
'06 '09 '11 '17 (4 times)
Playoff Record
(7 - 5)
SB XLIV Champion & MVP
Pro Bowl WRs
2017 M. Thomas (1)
Rodgers' Accolades since '08
Led League in Passing Yds
(0 times)
Led League in Passing TDs
'16 (1 time)
NFL Regular Season MVP
'11 '14 (2 times)
Division Titles
'11 '12 '13 '14 '16 (5 times)
Playoff Record
(9 - 7)
SB XLV Champion & MVP
Pro Bowl WRs
2010 G. Jennings
2011 G. Jennings
2014 R. Cobb
2014 J. Nelson
2017 D. Adams (5)
If being completely unbiased, its a PUSH between the QBs at this point.
I deleted my previous rant because most of you don't want to read nor care. For the record, I am not a Rodgers hater and I do respect the man. Just not convinced that Brees is no longer in the same class/tier with Aaron Rodgers anymore.
2017 put the league on notice.
Forget #12 (both of them).
2018 is for #9.
Let me hear your thoughts Saints fans.
This post was edited on 8/1/18 at 12:02 am
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Posted on 7/30/18 at 7:41 pm to TheSaintlyTiger84
Nice breakdown, but likely preqching to the choir here. Post to More Sports Board for some more lively debate and discourse.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 8:01 pm to TheSaintlyTiger84
Pretty solid analysis. Numbers don't lie. I'm biased, but I've always thought there is no better quarter back at quarter backing than Drew Brees, and that's not a statistically invalid argument. Obviously, Rogers is a better runner in the open field, but Brees has never gotten enough praise for how slippery and elusive he is in the pocket, and he's pretty fricking elite at it.
And I agree with Omer, you should post this on the MSB, might rustle some jimmies. If you do, though, you might want to add QB Rtg, TDs, Completion %, etc. for a more complete analysis.
And I agree with Omer, you should post this on the MSB, might rustle some jimmies. If you do, though, you might want to add QB Rtg, TDs, Completion %, etc. for a more complete analysis.
This post was edited on 7/30/18 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 7/30/18 at 8:19 pm to TheSaintlyTiger84
The sports media crowned Rodgers too fast, and unfortunately, it cost Brees the MVP in 2011. He's great, but they elevated him to Manning, Brady, and Brees status after his 2nd year as a starter.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 8:50 pm to TheSaintlyTiger84
quote:
Brees has better QB stats
Nah, Rodgers has significantly better stats. You don't know data at all
Posted on 7/30/18 at 8:51 pm to TheSaintlyTiger84
Head to head matchup comparison seems dumb and meaningless. Common opponents would make a lot more sense. They're obviously very close. Why micro analyze. Brees probably has a slightly better coach.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 8:59 pm to airfernando
I wanted to compare the QBs when they actually faced each other for part of my analysis. Common opponents doesn't tell me squat. Brees may have a "slightly" better coach but Rodgers (by an large) has had better defenses to work with and weaker opposing QBs in his division.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 9:05 pm to TheSaintlyTiger84
stop being a homer. It's okay to admit that Rodgers is the better QB. Doesn't mean that Drew is not a great QB
Posted on 7/30/18 at 9:12 pm to CapperVin
Maybe you didn't read the part where I stated that "I don't care" if you call me a homer or not. If Rodgers is the obvious better QB, then why is it that an older Drew Brees can stay upright and has started a full season's worth of games more than Rodgers while still taking significantly less sacks. Rodgers is fragile and delicate and Brees is an iron-man by comparison. Don't give me that "its the O-line's fault" excuse either. Drew has done way more with way less.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 9:18 pm to TheSaintlyTiger84
DOM CAPERS is the difference here vs what’s been in New Orleans during this stretch
This post was edited on 7/30/18 at 9:20 pm
Posted on 7/30/18 at 10:43 pm to TheSaintlyTiger84
quote:
Bree's
quote:
Rodger's
Posted on 7/30/18 at 11:19 pm to Wheaux
I see my punctuation mistakes but that's why you chose to post your comment? I didn't realize this was being graded and scrutinized like a term paper. Thanks for the insight teach.
Posted on 7/30/18 at 11:33 pm to TheSaintlyTiger84
Nice post bro. Enjoyed 60% but then got bored. The part I read was legit though and appreciate your work. They are both all time greats, but Brees has the edge in consistency and killer instinct / leadership.
This D this year could make Brees officially get on the main GOAT list with a second ring.
This D this year could make Brees officially get on the main GOAT list with a second ring.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 6:46 am to TheSaintlyTiger84
Idk which year, but brees got screwed hardest when Peyton won mvp over him
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:14 am to TheSaintlyTiger84
Theyboth are great QB’s. I like Brees for this team, though.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:28 am to VOR
left out INTs I see. Now why would you do that..... 
nice cherry picking btw
nice cherry picking btwThis post was edited on 7/31/18 at 8:30 am
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:35 am to SoFunnyItsNot
quote:
left out INTs I see. Now why would you do that..... nice cherry picking btw
Came in to post this. I'm the resident Brees defender in my cirlces and I always point to the fact that he's led a top 4 offense some ridiculous % of his career and the top offense 50% of his career. You have to point out the sheer efficiency of Rodgers, though. The dude just does not throw picks. He's got the all time TD/INT ratio by an entire touchdown. 4.01 to Brady's 3.05. Give me Drew all day everyday and I'm a who dat til I die but ARod is an absolute machine.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 9:11 am to Tigerbiscuits
yeah once you see sack stats are on the list but not INTs you see the complete bias. Both are great QBs though. Too hard to judge QBs who play on different teams and in very different environments. Imagine if Rodgers played all his home games in a dome and not in Wisconsin. I'm gonna go with Rodgers. But I am also biased.
This post was edited on 7/31/18 at 9:12 am
Posted on 7/31/18 at 9:18 am to TheSaintlyTiger84
quote:I appreciate your work but I'm thinking the same thing as Wheaux. How does a grown man write down "Bree's" and "Rodger's"?
I didn't realize this was being graded and scrutinized like a term paper. Thanks for the insight teach.
Posted on 7/31/18 at 9:20 am to SoFunnyItsNot
People need to remember that McCarthys offense is very QB friendly. Remember how it made guys like Aaron Brooks and Matt Flynn look all world. When you get athletes the ball in space, you get better YAC and fewer picks, which translates to rating.
Rogers is fantastic, but he’s doesn’t have the arm talent that Drew has. He might be more patient and better with his feet, but that’s about it.
Rogers is fantastic, but he’s doesn’t have the arm talent that Drew has. He might be more patient and better with his feet, but that’s about it.
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