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re: Underhill comment about Vrbal
Posted on 11/8/24 at 7:49 am to NewBeginnings
Posted on 11/8/24 at 7:49 am to NewBeginnings
The next HC will have an aging roster, no cap space and guys taking up dead money long after they are no longer on the team. Plus, Loomis continuing his assault on "the can". This is not an attractive job. This may be worse than 2006 when Payton came. Just in the overall state of the team.
The next HC will either love a challenge and cement his name in NFL history if they can turn this around under these circumstance, or knows they'll suck and be out of a job in 2-3 years.
The next HC will either love a challenge and cement his name in NFL history if they can turn this around under these circumstance, or knows they'll suck and be out of a job in 2-3 years.
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Posted on 11/8/24 at 8:14 am to St Augustine
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That’s a very random thing to say.
I’m dying laughing.
I’m just imaging Mike Vrabel randomly walking into businesses and screaming “I’ll never work for Gayle Benson!!!!” And then just walking out.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 8:22 am to RawDog7984
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By us do you mean the 2 upvotes you have? Vrabel is a phenomenal coach. Yes he got passed up, so did Bill B to hire a perennial losing head coach in Morris
Morris has the Falcons playing well.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 8:34 am to NewBeginnings
I like Ross Jackson’s thoughts on a possible path.
Hire a HC now to get you through the rebuild and salary cap hell. Then when you’re a more attractive destination for a HC (2026-2027) you go get the guy to make you a contender.
My thoughts.
Everyone will hate it but Rizzi might be the best choice for that role in the short term. He likely will be able to get max effort out of less the than optimal talent we’ll likely have for the next two years.
Stack draft picks and totally reset. But this IMO requires parting ways with Loomis as well.
Hire a HC now to get you through the rebuild and salary cap hell. Then when you’re a more attractive destination for a HC (2026-2027) you go get the guy to make you a contender.
My thoughts.
Everyone will hate it but Rizzi might be the best choice for that role in the short term. He likely will be able to get max effort out of less the than optimal talent we’ll likely have for the next two years.
Stack draft picks and totally reset. But this IMO requires parting ways with Loomis as well.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 8:37 am to Snipe
I just don't think you can approach it like that, as good as it sounds on paper.
You pick the guy you think will be the best coach for your team, to get you to a SB. If that's taking a chance on a guy ,great.
You don't pick a sacrificial lamb. You pick a guy to build your culture.
You pick the guy you think will be the best coach for your team, to get you to a SB. If that's taking a chance on a guy ,great.
You don't pick a sacrificial lamb. You pick a guy to build your culture.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 8:41 am to Snipe
Hmmm oldest roster in the league and worst salary cap situation in the league. We might have to do like what the Texans did and hire old retread coaches just to get us through a multi year tank. I don't see why any good head coach prospect would want to come here anytime soon. I highly doubt the Texans wanted to hire David Culley and Lovie Smith, but they were in a bad situation and good head coaching prospects didn't want to torpedo there career by taking a job with a bad team that won't be able to compete for a few years. We're about to have a multi year tank and we deserve it.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 8:42 am to Snipe
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I like Ross Jackson’s thoughts on a possible path. Hire a HC now to get you through the rebuild and salary cap hell. Then when you’re a more attractive destination for a HC (2026-2027) you go get the guy to make you a contender.
Just doesn’t make sense. Try to make the best hire you can in the near term. He doesn’t need to to have a potentially limited ceiling just because your roster likely does. It’s not like you can’t fire him in 2-3 years if he’s not showing anything at all.
Hell I think I would think you’d take an even bigger swing right now since you know there needs to be roster rebuilding. Maybe a really potentially high ceiling guy that may need to find his footing for a minute that would be a year away from being the next big thing.
This post was edited on 11/8/24 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 11/8/24 at 8:45 am to NewBeginnings
Need young blood, fresh ideas, and someone willing to be patient while the dinosaurs on the team become extinct.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 8:46 am to Chalkywhite84
And that means he’s a good coach? The falcons will be a bad team and looking for a new coach in the next 3 years.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 9:02 am to St Augustine
We’re gonna go the David Culley-Lovie Smith route aren’t we.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 9:05 am to jcaz
I want Brady
Posted on 11/8/24 at 9:23 am to Fun Bunch
I agree that you can’t approach it that way.
But we should all recognize that whoever we hire will have a bad year or two. I hated Dennis Allen as our head coach and he was the biggest problem with this team. But he wasn’t the only problem.
I think we can be competitive (7 to 10 wins) the next two years with the right coach. After 26 I would expect double digit wins out of a good coach.
But we should all recognize that whoever we hire will have a bad year or two. I hated Dennis Allen as our head coach and he was the biggest problem with this team. But he wasn’t the only problem.
I think we can be competitive (7 to 10 wins) the next two years with the right coach. After 26 I would expect double digit wins out of a good coach.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 9:38 am to S
Underhill already laying the “no one wants this job” narrative
Id say it’s probably going to be rizz or Aaron Glenn
Id say it’s probably going to be rizz or Aaron Glenn
Posted on 11/8/24 at 9:41 am to Fun Bunch
The only bridge type I would be interested in would be Bill, an outsider to come in, clean house of Mickey and all his yes men , build the culture back, he gets his career wins record, and rides off into the sunset.
It won’t ever happen but that’s the only bridge that could work
It won’t ever happen but that’s the only bridge that could work
Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:06 am to Suntiger
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I think we can be competitive (7 to 10 wins) the next two years with the right coach. After 26 I would expect double digit wins out of a good coach.
They would have to hit the next two drafts imo.
Still some huge holes on the roster and you aren't going to want to spend any money.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:26 am to NewBeginnings
I absolutely want Vrabel. Have already accepted that Mickey wouldn't pursue him, especially considering the reports last cycle were GM's and owner's were intimidated by Vrabel. So Mickey would feel too threatened.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 10:57 am to NewBeginnings
Jon Gruden will be the next head coach. That's Gayles target
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:09 am to NewBeginnings
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we need to accept that we are not a great destination right now and will have to hire a 2nd tier or unknown coach.
Luckily there's not a strong correlation between "big name NFL coaching candidates" and success. It's usually the underdog types like Dan Campbell and young Sean Payton
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:14 am to Chalkywhite84
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They would have to hit the next two drafts imo.
Lets just say we somehow walk away this years draft:
DT - Mason Graham (1st): Easy enough, arguably the top DL talent this draft
OT - Emery Jones (2nd): Sounds like most accounts have him dropping to early 2nd) or Kelvin Banks (OG/OT)
WR - Nic Anderson (3rd): HUGE guy to fit with Olave/Shaheed
S - Rod Moore (3rd): Senior safety coming off a torn ACL. Had huge upside, but this could be a steal here
We're looking solid going into 2026 with:
Offensively: Our OL would have been set with Fuaga-Penning-McCoy-Ruiz-Jones/Banks. QB is still Carr. RB is still AK. Top 3 WR are set. You'd need a TE and hopefully Miller showed some degree of growth to backup.
Defensively: DE because we're still thin and should easily be the first pick, LB to replace Demario, and CB if Taylor/Adebo/McKinstry don't round out. Likely another S to find to replace TM as well.
Posted on 11/8/24 at 11:26 am to SlippinJimmy
Yup, it’s why Harbaugh was never getting a phone call.
He wants beta cuck yes man as his head coach.
He wants beta cuck yes man as his head coach.
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