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Posted on 1/24/23 at 6:50 pm
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
4926 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 6:50 pm
I read a post here stating that we would get a low first and two fourth round picks for Payton. This is ridiculous. We have to demand more or simply make Payton sit out. If this has to last for two more years, and we get nothing, I am fine with that. Play all of Payton's potential suitros off against each other.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
14853 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 6:58 pm to
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If this has to last for two more years, and we get nothing, I am fine with that


That’s idiotic
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43456 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 7:16 pm to
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That’s idiotic


Whats idiotic is giving a top coach away for nothing because he decided he needed “a break” that lasted about 10 min. The chance to hire a coach with paytons accolades doesnt come around often. You either want him or you dont.
Posted by Suntiger
BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
32853 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 7:35 pm to
Posted by hugo_boss
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2012
990 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 7:35 pm to
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Whats idiotic is giving a top coach away for nothing because he decided he needed “a break” that lasted about 10 min. The chance to hire a coach with paytons accolades doesnt come around often. You either want him or you dont.


Nope, first guy is correct. Under almost no circumstance is getting nothing better than getting something. I hope the Saints get multiple high picks but getting a 1st, even a late one, helps this team. Please explain how getting nothing helps. We need talent,not moral victories.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71480 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 7:37 pm to
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If this has to last for two more years, and we get nothing, I am fine with that.

Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
2428 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 7:43 pm to
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We have to demand more or simply make Payton sit out. If this has to last for two more years, and we get nothing, I am fine with that. Play all of Payton's potential suitros off against each other.


You are too emotional to post about this topic. Sit this one out, you aren’t thinking clearly because you’re still hurt he left.
Posted by warm
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2022
68 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 7:46 pm to
We can’t really play the suitors against one another. All we can do is agree to compensation for Payton. He decides where he goes, not us.
Posted by Riverparishbaw
Montz
Member since Sep 2020
261 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:16 pm to
You're not going to get what you think for Payton. Owners are not so inclined to give a Gruden like deal anymore.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43456 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:17 pm to
The saints decide where he goes. Saints are in complete control. They can choose not to trade him at all. He is the one that wants to break the contract and coach somewhere else.
Posted by DomincDecoco
of no fixed abode
Member since Oct 2018
10820 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:25 pm to
2 -2nds
Posted by Riverparishbaw
Montz
Member since Sep 2020
261 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:26 pm to
Rumor is he wants 20-25 million per year, making him the highest paid coach in the NFL above Bellichek. Not that SP isn't a great coach, but he doesn't deserve that. And, where the heck is Denver getting the money to pay him? Didn't they just give that d-bag Russell Wilson a billion dollars or something?
Posted by moock blackjack
Member since Apr 2008
96127 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:27 pm to
There is no reason to think that there late first round pick is all the compensation we get for Payton. Loomis needs to stand tough. A first and third this year. A second next year plus a player like Patrick Surtain.
Posted by Rtowntiger
Member since Dec 2012
2012 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 8:31 pm to
No salary cap on coaches.
Posted by Domeskeller
Member since Jun 2020
7758 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:02 pm to
Can’t trade for players and they’re not gonna do a 7th-rounder for Surtain. League would investigate and wouldn’t hesitate to hammer the Saints on this. Why is this such a hard concept for people to grasp? You’re not getting a player for a coach. Period.
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
14853 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:17 pm to
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giving a top coach away for nothing because he decided he needed “a break” that lasted about 10 min. The chance to hire a coach with paytons accolades doesnt come around often. You either want him or you dont.


It’s also idiotic to think a first rounder and two fourth rounders is “nothing.” Some of you are so caught up in what we are getting in return your judgement is clouded.
Posted by UptownnMike
Uptown New Orleans
Member since Aug 2015
4065 posts
Posted on 1/24/23 at 10:40 pm to
Are you trolling with the Patrick Surtain thing or just ignoring when people tell you players can’t be involved lol
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11849 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 12:04 am to
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where the heck is Denver getting the money to pay him? Didn't they just give that d-bag Russell Wilson a billion dollars or something?


Do you know who just bought that team? They could give him $100 million if they wanted to.
Posted by VictoryHill
Alabama
Member since Nov 2013
3209 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 2:26 am to
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It’s also idiotic to think a first rounder and two fourth rounders is “nothing.”

No, a bottom 4 pick in the 1st round and 2 random arse 4ths is pretty close to nothing relative to the value of Payton - a SB winning head coach and architect of some of the best offenses in league history. Then you throw in the context of the Broncos needing a savior for their beleaguered QB on his huge deal and the Saints should get a king's ransom. If it comes down to it the Broncos need to be selling off some players for more picks that they can give us.

Some of you act like we should just trade him for what we can get like he's Michael Thomas or something. Less than 50% of 1st rounders hit with that percentage declining the later you get into the 1st, and way less than 50% of 4th rounders hit. How would you feel if we in effect got jack shite for Payton by drafting busts from the no real high-end picks we got? It would be against the Saints's best interest to just get what they can get and put the team at a competitive disadvantage. We need picks higher in the 1st, period.

Or we hold Payton for ransom. Because frick him, this is a business.

Just like he told Darren Sproles.
This post was edited on 1/25/23 at 2:34 am
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32488 posts
Posted on 1/25/23 at 8:19 am to
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Play all of Payton's potential suitros off against each other.

That’s not how it works, the Saints can’t choose his destination.
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