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re: Time for Shough
Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:17 am to saintsfan1977
Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:17 am to saintsfan1977
You are very hostile about Rattler. Very odd behavior.
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:19 am to Fun Bunch
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You are very hostile about Rattler. Very odd behavior.
How many games should a rookie QB get?
Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:35 am to Chad504boy
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based on kellen's comments this past week, it was almost like he wants spencer to get a win before maybe switching it up.
Which would be fricking stupid, because then all the Rattler fanboys (and local media) will be whining because they are making a switch after “poor Rattler” fought so hard for his first win.
Just make the damn switch. It really is malpractice to continue to waste starts on a backup that can’t make reads past ten yards (normally not even that far downfield)
Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:39 am to infantry1026
So a lower draft pic
Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:41 am to saintsfan1977
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How many games should a rookie QB get?
The rest of them, because he has more upside
Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:42 am to goatmilker
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So a lower draft pic
We will still lose plenty of games lol
Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:43 am to Wize1
I want to see Shough, but if our goal is to get a high draft pick we should stick with the QB who is 0-10 as a starter.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 11:44 am to infantry1026
True
It's all silly at this point. Trust the first year HC or don't and clutch your pearls
It's all silly at this point. Trust the first year HC or don't and clutch your pearls
Posted on 9/29/25 at 1:11 pm to Hx15261
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Nobody knows what Shough will do or be capable of. I like many others have seen all I need to see of Ratt. He misses a good number of easy throws every game and will not push the ball down the field. Shead was wide open running down the seam at least 3 times yesterday. Cooks was wide open on the TD that hit the ground. Last week 41 was wide open early in the game and a good throw could've ended in a TD instead of punt returned for a TD when the wheels started to fall off. Ratt is nothing more than a backup. It's time to see if we have anything at QB to move forward with. I want to see Shough NOW. NOT later on down the season NOW...
Unless prime Bress walks through the door this team might win 3 games and I am ok with that. I agree with everything you wrote. It is time four games is enough to see with a new coach and scheme. Does Rattler ever throw it deep? I don't hate him at all but at this point 10 games of film it is time to make the switch. This season is a wash so let's see what Shough has and go from there. That way with the high draft pick that is coming they can see if they need to draft a QB or not.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 1:46 pm to saintsfan1977
quote:I would accept that he would need nine more losses to be 0-10.
And you know this how? If he throws 4 picks in his first game are you going to make excuses?
Posted on 9/29/25 at 1:56 pm to saintsfan1977
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Shough would not have won a single game yet. Either way we are 0-4
Maybe, maybe not. I say this as a fan of the Saints who was pulling for Rattler to start, and thinks he can still be a good long tenured backup in this league.
2 of the 4 games were lost by 7 points or less. While Rattler has not been "bad" he has been incredibly "average", so not implausible to think a couple of "above average" plays from Shough wouldn't have changed the outcome.
Yes it's possible Shough could have made more "bad" plays, but at this point of 0-4 with a rookie that many say has high upside and was the most pro-ready QB in the draft, then Moore owes it to the team to find out what we have in Shough. Worst case starting Shough now is we continue losing & we realize he is not the answer and have to look for a QB again in '26. Worst case in waiting to start him is you run into the scenario we were in with Rattler last season feeling like we are uncertain and have to roll with him again next season potentially delaying the inevitable continued QB search
Rattler is 0-10 overall, but let's break that down some.
2024 season
--0-6 record as starter.
--197 passing yards per game avg with a high of 243.
--12.3 points per game average with a high of 27 that was aided by a punt return TD.
--3TD/5INT, 5 fumbles/3 lost
--5.6 sacks per game
Myself & many others gave him some grace and did not judge him too harshly due to the OL & WR injuries, so let's see how he has followed that up in 2025
2025 season
--0-4 record as starter.
--191 passing yards per game avg with a high of 218
--16.5 points per game average with a high of 21
--5TD/1INT, 2 fumbles/0 lost
--2.25 sacks per game
He is who is he is at this point. He's improved his sacks and ball security at least, but does not drive the ball downfield or score enough points.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:21 pm to Doug_H
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He is who is he is at this point. He's improved his sacks and ball security at least, but does not drive the ball downfield or score enough points
I agree with you. Shough would not have won though otherwise he's starting. I want to see him play this year too and I hope he lights it up. Then the question will be should we have started him from the beginning.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:26 pm to Wize1
Why? Rattler is not the problem.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:38 pm to paulb52
quote:BS. He's the reason we are 0-4 and that he's 0-10. Forget about the other 52 players.
Why? Rattler is not the problem.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 3:47 pm to King George
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We know what Rattler is. They have to give Shough a good long look so they can decide what to do with that high draft pick next year.
Do we? A play here or there and we could have realistically won 3/4 games.
All good to decent teams. Let’s see what he does against the easier part of the schedule. The line has been garbage but it should get better now. And he hasn’t been turning the ball over.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 4:30 pm to Townedrunkard
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A play here or there and we could have realistically won 3/4 games.
The miss to Olave would’ve have gave you the lead vs AZ
The miss to Kamara vs SEA would’ve gave you the lead
The miss to Cooks vs BUF wouldve gave you the lead
These are the opportunities that decide the fate of young. There were no outside factors at play here. Just a QB who has consistently missed big throws. Differentiates a QB between a starter and backup
Posted on 9/29/25 at 5:14 pm to GynoSandberg
Tough catch but Olave should have caught that one. He also threw a perrrct ball to JJ that he didn’t come down with at the end, but seems everyone forgot that one.
The Cooks ball was bad placement.
The Werner drop was bigger. It was on the buffalo 25. That was an automatic 3 points if not more. It hit him in the chest. They scored on that drive. Changed the whole game.
The Cooks ball was bad placement.
The Werner drop was bigger. It was on the buffalo 25. That was an automatic 3 points if not more. It hit him in the chest. They scored on that drive. Changed the whole game.
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 9/29/25 at 5:25 pm to Townedrunkard
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He also threw a perrrct ball to JJ that he didn’t come down with at the end, but seems everyone forgot that one.
You're cherry picking with these clowns.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 6:22 pm to Townedrunkard
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Tough catch but Olave should have caught that one.
It was a bad throw to a wide open WR, as was the Kamara and Cooks balls. I’m willing to forgive the first one to Olave.. then the Kamara one was like, eh, ok, that was bad, one more chance. The Cooks ball makes it a trend. That’s ample opportunity for a guy who has thrown like 1,000 competitive passes in college and pros
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He also threw a perrrct ball to JJ that he didn’t come down with at the end, but seems everyone forgot that one.
He’s not incapable of making a nice pass. He also hasn’t converted prime opportunities for 6. Both things can be true. I’d prefer scoring consistently in the RZ when the opportunity presents itself vs a highlight throw with 3 defenders in the vicinity
Posted on 9/29/25 at 8:38 pm to Townedrunkard
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Do we?
Yes
Rattler puts up Jordan Jefferson numbers, is 0-10, and you people are very incurious about door #2
Very odd behavior
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