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This is a Lose/Lose for Atlanta

Posted on 3/18/22 at 10:02 am
Posted by xXLSUXx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Oct 2010
10631 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 10:02 am
1) Watson to Saints - they lose a top QB to a division rival who fills a key missing piece.

2) Watson to Atlanta - not only do they lose the draft picks and assets in the Houston trade, they get absolutely trade raped on the Matt Ryan trade. Whichever team is on the other side of the Ryan deal has ALL of the leverage. They will likely have to package more picks and/or players to move him.

Atlanta will decimate their future just to prevent the Saints from potentially being a contender.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19628 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 10:03 am to
Atlanta knows they were going to suck until they got rid of Ryan. Doesn't matter if they suck a lot more to them, knowing they will have the best QB in the division next year.

They, and Watson, are punting 2022 and possibly 2023.
Posted by Laaz2750
Los Angeles
Member since Aug 2008
8500 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 10:04 am to
Well, as much as so would love to believe this, others have pointed out that as soon as 2023 they’ll have a shitload of cap space plus Watson with which to lure FAs… that said, they’ll pretty much have to nail every single FA signing they make, but it’s not like the long term death of yet franchise is a forgone conclusion
Posted by Gumbyxl
Gretna
Member since Apr 2004
794 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 10:16 am to
Its far worse than noted. The Falcons not only will have to trade Ryan's contract but will also have to be 35 million under the salary cap to accommodate Watson contract. They can of course restructure his contract once signed. Hence other players like Grady Jarrett, Deion Jones would have to be traded or cut to accommodate Watson's cap hit. Realistically, I don't see this happening. Deshaun may want to return home however, I don't see Atlanta pulling this off in the end.
Posted by LSUChamps03
S. Louisiana
Member since Feb 2006
3327 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 10:20 am to
Atlanta and Watson know he’ll likely miss at least 6 games in ‘22. So it’s a “wasted” year anyway.

They also know that getting Watson will lure FAs. And for ‘23 they reportedly have $90m+ in cap space to spend.

Knowing he’ll miss significant time he likely doesn’t see a great chance he wins a SB in ‘22 with the Saints.

So he gets through the ‘22 season and sees a FA-supplemented Atlanta roster in ‘23 as a contender.
Posted by LSUdude247
Member since Oct 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 10:52 am to
Lose/Lose in getting a young franchise QB
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 10:58 am to
quote:

Lose/Lose in getting a young franchise QB
Context matters. And there's ton of it on top of that.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62978 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 11:03 am to
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Knowing he’ll miss significant time he likely doesn’t see a great chance he wins a SB in ‘22 with the Saints.


I think Watson’s gonna get more than 6. How quickly we forget that he was literally the leading story on just about every sports talk show this time last year for weeks for demanding a trade. He was able to somehow turn everybody against Houston and win the PR battle that guys demanding trades or hold-outs almost never do. Then all this came out, it was a story for about a week, and then weirdly nobody spoke his name for like 6 months. My point is that most of last off-season was dominated by Watson news, and it all painted the NFL in a negative light, so I don’t expect Roger to go easy on him, regardless of whether or not he’s criminally indicted. So who’s playing QB those 4, 6, 8, 10 games Watson is suspended?

And Kamara’s probably missing 6 games himself. So besides just missing his production, we’ve got to find another RB somehow. Also still have to find a #2 WR and somebody to replace whatever player(s) go back to Houston in the trade. Whether that’s Ceedy, McCoy, both? And how are we filling those holes with no cap room and likely no 1st or 2nd round picks this year?

So I feel like Watson is kinda punting on the ‘22 season no matter where he goes. Obviously we are in better shape to tread water during the suspension(s), get on a roll, and maybe make a playoff run, but the odds of that are slim and. would take all the stars aligning. So, at 26, he’s got to look past the next couple of years—he’s got to look at the next decade. I just don’t think it’s as much of a no-brainer as a lot of you guys do, even if we’re just talking about winning.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61085 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 11:05 am to
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Context matters. And there's ton of it on top of that.


Most of the context is Saints fans try to rationalize

The bottom line is they get a franchise QB under 30 that’s already proven he can win in the league. Even if they have a bad 2 years he’ll still be under 30
Posted by lil 7thward
ATL
Member since Jan 2012
2732 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 11:16 am to
I see it differently. If Watson goes to Atlanta, they get rid of Matt Ryan. If Watson, comes to New Orleans they keep their picks, and they will still trade Ryan. Atlanta will take Bryce Young #1 overall in the draft.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62978 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 11:20 am to
quote:

Most of the context is Saints fans try to rationalize


I agree. We have a new coach for the 1st time in 16 years who sucked the only time he’s been a HC. And he’s a defensive guy. And what is his—or the organization’s—vision for the offense? Who’s even calling our plays? Good Lord I hope not—frick the Falcons—but I think a lot of Saints fans are deluding themselves into believing in a huge gap in organizations that I’m not sure exists, and they could be ready to compete much sooner than we think.

I mean, in ‘23, Watson would have a 3rd year Pitts and a fresh Ridley to throw to and probably a ton of cap space to work with. And sure, they won’t have a 1st, but if they suck as bad as we think they will this year, they’ll be picking towards the top of each round they have picks in ‘23.

Again, I want Watson in New Orleans. But almost as much to keep him from the Falcons as I’m not convinced they can’t be very good as soon as next season (‘23).
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12619 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 11:22 am to
Punting the next 2 years helps the Texans not the Falcons
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62978 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 11:28 am to
quote:

Punting the next 2 years helps the Texans not the Falcons


I don’t think anybody is suggesting otherwise, just that it may be worth it to both the Falcons and Watson if they’re smart and looking long-term.
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
10432 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 11:38 am to
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Atlanta will decimate their future just to prevent the Saints from potentially being a contender


I don’t think it’s this extreme. Once they shed Ryan, even with Watson added they still will have ample cap space next year. They are definitely planning on not being able to compete for championships for a few years (3-5) but they will be competitive in general (maybe not in 2022) with Watson o the team. And once the shadow of the trade is gone and they have picks again they will try to rebuild with a superstar at QB. It’s not that bad of a plan.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
15203 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 11:43 am to
Falcons fans think they will get a 1sr 2nd and 3rd for Ryan lmao
So Watson will not cost very much.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61085 posts
Posted on 3/18/22 at 11:57 am to
These are all good points I wasn’t even think about it from the Saints side. I’m all for some good old fashioned Falcons hate, but let’s not be delusional about it. Just because they have a bad roster now and will have to give up a bunch of picks does not mean they can’t improve the roster rather quickly. People have this idea that it takes 5-10 years to rebuild (we see this mentality with LSU football and now basketball) but it’s been shown time and time again to not be the case. The teams that struggle for long periods are because of bad management at the top owners, GMs. As much as we hate the Falcons they did have a Super Bowl team and made the playoffs several times with Ryan, so they can build a decent team. It would suck for the Saints to lose Watson to Seattle but a division rival is really bad.
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