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The Saints should take a page from the Pels on how to rebound from a disastrous offseason

Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:26 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131919 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:26 pm
The Pelicans had as disastrous an offseason as a franchise can have just a few years ago. They hired a terrible, retread coach that the players absolutely despised, made horrid trades and acquired players that were total busts or didn’t want to play. Among many other things.

But they immediately turned it around. They didn’t buy into sunk cost and fired their bum coach and made an actual inspired hire on a young up and coming coach that had never been a HC. They had possibly the best draft in their history, made smart trades and acquisitions. They followed it up with another good draft and offseason and are a solid, good young team with a high ceiling.

I know this is going to get about 20 herrrrderrrr I hate basketball responses but this isn’t about basketball.

The Bensons other team was in a similar spot. And it calls for a similar response.

Your coach isn’t a good one. Fire him. Make a bold and inspired hire, on the Offensive side of the ball. Draft solidly and do everything you can to find your QB.

Don’t buy into sunk cost. Move on. Be bold.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
77177 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:27 pm to
And they both have toes
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291693 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:29 pm to
They have to.


And don’t interview 4 non offensive coaches again. They weren’t even close
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131919 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:31 pm to
Eric Bienemy must be the worst interviewer of all time, or his skeletons scare teams that much.

Dennis Allen is just a total dud. They just cannot run this back.
Posted by Sauce Castieaux
Asheville, NC.
Member since Nov 2015
5843 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:37 pm to
I wonder what are the chances Dennis actually says to himself "do I want to keep doing this" and steps down.

I was never one to want to keep dennis if they just demoted him.

But imagine a scenario where Payton talks to dennis. DA could save face by reverting back and Payton takes over. Not completely baseless given the rumors out there.

I dont think it happens. But regardless, maybe he just quits.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131919 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:38 pm to
0.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:38 pm to
If this was Allen’s first crack at HC, I’d say he gets another year. But his history coupled with the poor performance and the fact that the team didn’t improve at all, means he has to go.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131919 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:39 pm to
The literal reason for hiring him was continuity and to keep this thing rolling.

It rolled off a cliff instead. There’s no reason to keep him.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12337 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:39 pm to
Pels weren't in cap hell against a hard cap. They might hit cap hell in the next few years but there is not a product on the court that is worth the tax. Problem in the NFL is you don't get taxed if you are over the cap, they start taking draft picks which just makes things worst. I think the Saints need to take their medicine and let some of these big cap hits come and get off the books before things will get better.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
131919 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 8:54 pm to
I hear you but the Pels may as well have been in cap hell because no one wanted to sign with them (and thank god they didn’t).
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
10432 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:03 pm to
Pels also had the advantage of having a very valuable asset they were able to flip for a massive bounty that positioned the franchise to succeed long term

The Saints have Payton, but it won’t be THAT imoactful
Posted by Yippie_Ky_yae
Member since Jun 2019
4789 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:04 pm to
Saints don’t have a Zion trying to get healthy….

They got a Loomis that screws up drafts…
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
77177 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:05 pm to
Our drafts of late are why we have a pulse.
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
23102 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

Our drafts of late are why we have a pulse.



You can kiss Ireland goodbye. It will be our biggest loss.
Posted by Yippie_Ky_yae
Member since Jun 2019
4789 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

Our drafts of late are why we have a pulse.


And what’s our situation at QB?
Posted by Domeskeller
Astrodome
Member since Jun 2020
10123 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:16 pm to
Considering they did something stupid like hire him in the first place, they’re gonna do something stupid like give him a second year.
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
15384 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:23 pm to
The pels greatest feat is being in first place through mid season.

Don’t take a page from that god awfully poorly run team.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
34954 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:35 pm to
While i and most agree, allen will be back.

They are going to waste another yr.

The only way i can see it working with allen is if he hits a home run on the oc hire.

Hopefully he lucks into someone like doug pederson that will completely take over the offense and make it their own.

I can't believe we aregoing to be stuck with allen for another yr.
Posted by VictoryHill
Watson, LA
Member since Nov 2013
3261 posts
Posted on 1/8/23 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

Eric Bienemy must be the worst interviewer of all time

It might be simply because he's not really developed anyone worth a shite and instead had Jamaal Charles, Adrian Peterson, and Patrick Mahomes handed to him. Coaches should never get credit for generational talent being great. That's how Adam Gase and Nathaniel Hackett got hired and it was obviously the wrong move.

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