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re: The case for and against Michael Thomas
Posted on 6/25/19 at 11:19 am to geauxtigers87
Posted on 6/25/19 at 11:19 am to geauxtigers87
quote:
Signing him is a move to protect the future without Drew at this point
and that's a pretty important thing, IMO... the next QB will need all the help we can afford them, to come in and produce at a level that has become the expectation...
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Posted on 6/25/19 at 2:07 pm to cbree88
quote:
don't make asinine statements
the whole thread is asinine because we would never not re sign arguably the best receiver in the league.
we would be a laughing stock if we released him, will never happen.
to say "there is a case against" resigning Thomas is asinine because we would never not sign him.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 2:09 pm to Are Kelly
So what happens when Drew retires and we have MT as the highest paid WR in the league with a possible subpar QB? Not a good idea.
ETA: the reason I say that is because I compare it to situations like Marino leaving the dolphins. It’s been 19 years and they haven’t found a replacement. Same with Kelly and the Bills. Not everyone can get rid of a legend, a la Favre, and have a Rodgers step in. It’s rare.
ETA: the reason I say that is because I compare it to situations like Marino leaving the dolphins. It’s been 19 years and they haven’t found a replacement. Same with Kelly and the Bills. Not everyone can get rid of a legend, a la Favre, and have a Rodgers step in. It’s rare.
This post was edited on 6/25/19 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 6/25/19 at 3:23 pm to Are Kelly
Just pay him, he will be needed for future qb even if it is TB
Posted on 6/25/19 at 3:49 pm to burke985
quote:
ust pay him, he will be needed for future qb even if it is TB
and that future QB will need a good OL ($$$$$) blocking for him, a good RB, like Kamara also $$$$$$$$ very soon. A good TE and more than just one good WR would also help which also could cost money.
Also who is to say that we don't go on the free agent market for this future QB which also will take plenty of money under the salary cap. I am just not sure it is prudent to tie up that big a chunk of the salary cap on one WR, no matter how good he may be.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 3:57 pm to cbree88
quote:
The Saints have to decide whether or not it’s worth it to tie up that much money in one area of the team and cause the other areas to suffer
exactly. If we pay MT $22 mill, we would have 25% of our total player payroll tied up in the QB and one WR.
quote:
Can we afford to give Alvin Kamara or any other star this kind of money in a couple of years?
In the not to distant future it is going to take a pretty big chunk to get him resigned as well and he is every bit as important to this offense as MT is.
To say there is no case against resigning him just is not true. There is a lot to consider here.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 4:07 pm to rsbd
quote:
6 years ago Drew is not current Drew, he needs a playmaking wr
I don’t get how this is so hard for many to understand.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 4:14 pm to BeachDude022
So what happens when we let MT go and our receivers don't step up and Drew has sh!t to throw too? As you said it's not easy to replace the best of the best.
I'll take your scenario 10 out of 10 times.
I'll take your scenario 10 out of 10 times.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 6:13 pm to CBandits82
quote:
the whole thread is asinine because we would never not re sign arguably the best receiver in the league. we would be a laughing stock if we released him, will never happen. to say "there is a case against" resigning Thomas is asinine because we would never not sign him.
You didn’t exactly provide any support for your argument right here. You just made a bunch of emotional statements.
I bet you wanted the Saints to give Jimmy Graham a huge deal and keep him around a few years back. The Saints refused to do so and came out on top of the deal when they traded his contract away.
This post was edited on 6/25/19 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 6/25/19 at 8:58 pm to boxcar willie
quote:What do you think they should cap the offer at annually?
MT is worth every penny of $22 mill, just don't think it would be prudent for the Saints to tie up that kind of money on one player other than at QB. Hate to see him go though. Tough call to make, but great teams (the Patriots) make those kind of calls when they have to be made.
Posted on 6/25/19 at 10:18 pm to Are Kelly
Saints at 18
MT at 22
Give the man 20
MT at 22
Give the man 20
Posted on 6/26/19 at 5:42 am to TigerBait2008
Of course there is a case against signing him. A case can be made that 2 10 mil WRs would be more prudent than keeping just MT at 20 mil.
I would franchise and kick the can down the road. Not popular with the player but if he acts crazy, u can trade him and get something for him.
I would franchise and kick the can down the road. Not popular with the player but if he acts crazy, u can trade him and get something for him.
Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:56 am to Milesahead
quote:
but if he acts crazy
Whats crazy is that MT has had the best first three years in NFL history.
Whats crazy is he led the NFL in fewest drops.
Whats crazy is he scares the sh!t out of most cb's.
How many time have you seen a cb bow up on Mike? Anyone?
Posted on 6/26/19 at 10:40 am to goatmilker
MT 125 receptions
Kamara 81 receptions
Watson 35 receptions
T. Smith 28 receptions
Ingram 21 receptions
Ginn 17 receptions
J. Hill 16 receptions
Kirkwood 13 receptions
Dan Arnold 12 receptions
Meredith 9 receptions
Carr 9 receptions
Z. Line 5 receptions
TLL 3 receptions
T. Hill 3 receptions
He’s the #1 WR in the NFL in catch rate at 82.9%.
26 years old.
2 Pro Bowls & 1 All Pro in 3 years.
Started 48 of 51 games in his three years in the NFL. (No injuries as of date)
Pay him his $20M a year and win the Super Bowl in 2019.
/thread
Kamara 81 receptions
Watson 35 receptions
T. Smith 28 receptions
Ingram 21 receptions
Ginn 17 receptions
J. Hill 16 receptions
Kirkwood 13 receptions
Dan Arnold 12 receptions
Meredith 9 receptions
Carr 9 receptions
Z. Line 5 receptions
TLL 3 receptions
T. Hill 3 receptions
He’s the #1 WR in the NFL in catch rate at 82.9%.
26 years old.
2 Pro Bowls & 1 All Pro in 3 years.
Started 48 of 51 games in his three years in the NFL. (No injuries as of date)
Pay him his $20M a year and win the Super Bowl in 2019.
/thread
Posted on 6/26/19 at 10:55 am to Suntiger
Posted on 6/26/19 at 6:06 pm to Are Kelly
Thomas has had a couple of great seasons, and I like the guy. However,I don’t think he really stretches the field like some of the more elite receivers.
20 mm. Is a lot of dough to invest in Michael.
I would love to keep him in a perfect world,
but I just don’t know.
20 mm. Is a lot of dough to invest in Michael.
I would love to keep him in a perfect world,
but I just don’t know.
This post was edited on 6/26/19 at 6:10 pm
Posted on 6/26/19 at 7:20 pm to VOR
quote:
don’t think he really stretches the field like some of the more elite receivers.
VOR, I know you’re old so I’ll take it easy on you. But 1) he can stretch the field if needed. That’s just not typically the Saints game. Brees isn’t throwing the ball 40-50 yards multiple times a game. 72 yard TD. 2) Our stretch the field guys have been complimentary WRs, not our main receiving threats (see D. Henderson, J. Morgan, TLL, & T. Ginn). 3) Stretching the field is overrated for WR. Would you rather have MT13 or Tyler Lockett, Brandin Cooks, Stefon Diggs or OBJ. Michael Thomas all day every day.
He’s worth $20M. That’s the market. Pay it quick so all those other WRs demand more and make his contract look like a deal.
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