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re: That head coaching “search” a couple of years ago is still infuriating

Posted on 11/30/23 at 12:48 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 12:48 pm to
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I was big on the brian daboll train

Me too. He wasn't coming here. He's from NY and waited a year for the Giants
Posted by fwtex
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 8:48 pm to
Brian Schottenheimer could be a good choice to bring in give the offense side of the ball to. I think he would jump all over it.
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 7:17 am to
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Im still not mad at the choice to make DA the coach and try to keep as many pieces in place.

I honestly don’t understand how. DA had an established track record as a loser and his performance has been absolutely on par with his track record. He is who he has always been.
Posted by saints5021
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 8:18 am to
DA winning that Tampa game when Payton had COVID set this franchise back 5 years
Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 8:35 am to
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DA had an established track record as a loser and his performance has been absolutely on par with his track record. He is who he has always been.


Pete Carroll had a losing record before Seattle hired him.
Bill Bellichek had a losing record before New England hired him.
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 8:59 am to
Carroll was 33-31 and had won his division, then succeeded very well at USC before the Seahawks hired him.

Belichick did have a losing record of 36-44 but was still widely considered a very good coach.

Belichick is clearly the exception and not the rule and if the ownership thought they were going to repeat that they’re dumber than previously thought. Oh, and Allen’s record before being hired? 8-28. Not even close to sniffing .500
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:25 am to
Need to hire a head coach, not an assistant not up to the task.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:28 am to
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Keeping Eric B around for 8 hours just to let him go is embarrassing.

The whole offseason was a comedy of errors


That was done for optics only. They knew they were going DA, but needed to interview minority HCs. If I recall the timing correctly, it also happened shortly after Flores started naming teams in his lawsuit. So they had to make sure it looked legit to avoid being the 3rd (or 4th) team included int he suit.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 9:39 am to
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People are saying we should have hired Pederson but if i recall, at the time, many werent thrilled with that hire either.

I recall him having some mixed feelings/thoughts on this board as well. But the consensus was we really have a shot over Jax, 0 income tax for home games, T-Law was in the building, #1 draft pick, better cap situation...
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 10:41 am to
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Me too. He wasn't coming here. He's from NY and waited a year for the Giants



This. That’s his dream job. I can also see Ben Johnson going to the Panthers since he’s from South Carolina. Just down the road.


If we do by some miracle get rid of DA, I think Harbaugh would be the pipe dream but I wouldn’t mind taking a swing at Mike Macdonald or Bobby Slowik
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
33569 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 11:02 am to
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Brian Schottenheimer could be a good choice to bring in give the offense side of the ball to. I think he would jump all over it.



I’d say he’s a dark horse candidate right now. He’ll pick up steam if the Cowboys make a decent run in the playoffs. But I also wonder how much the Cowboys playing well on offense is attributed to him or McCarthy. Isn’t McCarthy calling plays?

The whole situation with him getting fired in Seattle is just weird, though. That whole season was weird. Seattle and Russ are torching the league the first 8-9 weeks and then they became a more average offense. Carroll says he was partly to blame because he wanted Schotty to dial it back some and go to a more intermediate type approach but who knows if that was really the case. Maybe Carroll was lying to protect Schotty. Maybe he was lying to protect Russ.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
21956 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 11:24 am to
Allen was the easy hire
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