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re: Shough has to start and be good next year to justify this pick, right?
Posted on 4/25/25 at 8:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 4/25/25 at 8:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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. That would be pretty shite. That's the whole point.
27 equals shite not team mates, not coaches not victories in the field. Its over.
I'm not a Sheaux fan but your reasoning is off. The HC wants him not Carr and age matters more to SFP than it does to CKM. To me it means he really likes and trust this QB with his future as a coach in the league. Now lets prove it.
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 8:22 pm to Chad504boy
Guy has had 7 years of college football and not one season that has shown he is deserving of being a second day pick much less a top 40 pick.
It’s a bad pick because they easily get this kid with one of their third round picks. No one else has shown they are willing to give up a top 2 round pick for him.
As SFP said, there is a developmental curve with him. He’s been nothing like Penix in CFB but even Penix was getting criticism for his age.
It’s a bad pick because they easily get this kid with one of their third round picks. No one else has shown they are willing to give up a top 2 round pick for him.
As SFP said, there is a developmental curve with him. He’s been nothing like Penix in CFB but even Penix was getting criticism for his age.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 8:22 pm to Vacherie Saint
What does a “hit” mean?
Posted on 4/25/25 at 8:22 pm to Chad504boy
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We picked a more mature and seasoned qb
Mature? Maybe? Compared to Sanders? Sure
Seasoned? No.
Dude barely played in college (and wasn't that good when he did)
Posted on 4/25/25 at 8:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
Season after this one maybe, but to say he needs to start and be good this year is just being emotional
Posted on 4/25/25 at 8:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
He’s experienced enough to start. Probably get hurt by mid season though
Posted on 4/25/25 at 8:24 pm to Chad504boy
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more mature and seasoned qb
Older doesn’t equal more seasoned or more mature. Especially not in this case.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 8:24 pm to goatmilker
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The HC wants him not Carr and age matters more to SFP than it does to CKM
And this is only logical and smart if they truly believe we're ready to compete next year. That's the whole point of this thread.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 8:24 pm to Geauxgurt
He’s learned more offenses than Shedeur
Posted on 4/25/25 at 8:25 pm to CP3forMVP
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but to say he needs to start and be good this year is just being emotional
Not when you take his age into account.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 8:26 pm to DBG
It means the player was a net upgrade for the drafting team according to PFF metrics.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 8:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
If you are a good qb, that will last until you are late 30’s. Why throw him into the fire. Develop him and get him ready. He has the maturity just teach him.
It’s the same thing as making a college grad a manager straight out of college for a Fortune 500 company
It’s the same thing as making a college grad a manager straight out of college for a Fortune 500 company
Posted on 4/25/25 at 8:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Not when you take his age into account.
Cause 26-27’s year olds that aren’t “seasoned” aren’t capable of improving. Logic by sfp
Posted on 4/25/25 at 8:27 pm to Geauxgurt
Older is not a good trait among CFB QBs.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 8:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
Their belief in Kellen Moore is absurd. The guy has a season with the best OL, best RB, top level WR and a damn legit TE in the league and a defense that was as much responsible for their Super Bowl and no other team even wanted him as their head coach, but he is the next coming.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 8:29 pm to Chad504boy
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Cause 26-27’s year olds that aren’t “seasoned”
How many starts did he have in college?
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aren’t capable of improving
Major improvement from 27 onward is almost unheard of. It's very, very rare. A complete outlier scenario.
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Logic by sfp
History. Find me all the NFL QBs who took a major step from mediocrity into being an elite QB after 27, preferably after the WCO was invented.
I'll just give you one that doesn't fit but to give you a bone: Kurt Warner.
This post was edited on 4/25/25 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 4/25/25 at 8:29 pm to Vacherie Saint
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It means the player was a net upgrade for the drafting team according to PFF metrics.
ok So Daniels Jones was a hit because he wasn’t the corpse of Eli Manning
Posted on 4/25/25 at 8:29 pm to Vacherie Saint
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And you only have a year to find out if he’s worth a damn.
that's what most of the people advocating for this guy are missing...
you can't give this guy the same amount of time to "figure it out"... and given that he hasn't really "figured it out", after 7 fricking seasons playing college ball, what makes anyone think that he will miraculously figure it out now, I dunno....
my whole stance is that is he really THAT much better than what Rattler can possibly give you, so much so that you decided to use a top 40 pick worth of draft capital for him, when you have so many other needs that still need to be addressed?
just a really bad pick, all things considered
This post was edited on 4/25/25 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 4/25/25 at 8:30 pm to Geauxgurt
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Their belief in Kellen Moore is absurd. The guy has a season with the best OL, best RB, top level WR and a damn legit TE in the league and a defense that was as much responsible for their Super Bowl and no other team even wanted him as their head coach, but he is the next coming
He was also very meh with Herbert, Williams, Keenan, etc. the year prior.
Now we have Herbert's less talented backup leading us
Posted on 4/25/25 at 8:30 pm to Chad504boy
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We picked a more mature and seasoned qb, breaking news by sfp
Chad talking out of his fat arse again. No facts or stats just making shite up
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