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re: Shadeur
Posted on 4/25/25 at 11:45 am to KiwiHead
Posted on 4/25/25 at 11:45 am to KiwiHead
Sanders doesn't have the strongest of arms but he has more than enough to get the job done. You can see it on the deep outs. But that's ok because he makes up for it on those throws by throwing with timing & anticipation.
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 11:49 am to SEClint
Cam Newton was NFL MVP one year and led his team to a Super Bowl. So if that's your definition of sucking, then I'll take my chances.
Agree with your take on Russell and Leaf
Agree with your take on Russell and Leaf
Posted on 4/25/25 at 11:52 am to KiwiHead
quote:how did it work out for them?
Cam Newton was NFL MVP one year and led his team to a Super Bowl. So if that's your definition of sucking, then I'll take my chances.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 11:54 am to KiwiHead
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So you want a guy who says, " nah, I may need a year or two before I'm ready to make a difference, think of me as a mid term project that will pay off long term" Yeah he's brash, his Dad was and is brash, but Deion backed it up and Shedeur along with Hunter backed up the hype. Without them, Colorado was a 2-3 win team.
One thing to be confident or cocky. All these guys are confident and cocky. Go watch Dart, Milroe, Howard play. They all showboat, yell into the camera, talk shite to the other team, etc.
First off, Sheduer sounds legitimately stupid when he speaks. Not a black thing, or a Deion thing, it just is what it is. Go pull up any video of him talking and you can hardly follow what he’s saying. Not because of dialect or anything like that. He literally talks in catch phrases and tries to sound smart.
Yea the cockiness and arrogance could be a problem but I feel like he’s mostly putting on a show for the media. And like you said I’d rather have a confident qb than a humble qb.
Bottom line is the NFL owners don’t think he’s a first round prospect. Below avg build, never played real competition, never won any big games, benefited from stat padding and playing with TH.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 11:54 am to BigBrod81
In the end you want accuracy and he has shown he can do that under stupid pressure because of his O Line.
I'd risk the "circus" that has talent over what we have now.....and what we would have for the foreseeable future without someone with his measureables and ability
I'd risk the "circus" that has talent over what we have now.....and what we would have for the foreseeable future without someone with his measureables and ability
Posted on 4/25/25 at 11:57 am to SlidellCajun
The problem with him is he played at Colorado, if you had the same type of season at an SEC School he would have been gone already.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 12:00 pm to SEClint
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how did it work out for them?
Seems like it worked out pretty well for Cam.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 12:05 pm to KiwiHead
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I'd risk the "circus" that has talent over what we have now.....and what we would have for the foreseeable future without someone with his measureables and ability
Yeah let’s draft a circus for a first time head coach on a team with little talent. You keep saying that if the team doesn’t draft Sanders that they won’t have a quarterback for "the foreseeable future"….. you can draft a qb next year if they want. You have ZERO idea what the quarterbacks will be like in the next draft.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 12:09 pm to SEClint
What do you mean? Newton essentially carried that team most years.
4 playoff appearances over that time span of 2011 -2019. Amassed 30K+ in yards. Rushed for 5600 yards. Made the Super Bowl against Broncos. I'll take 4 playoff appearances in a 9 year period.
So. It worked out pretty good for Newton and Carolina.
You confused about anything else?
4 playoff appearances over that time span of 2011 -2019. Amassed 30K+ in yards. Rushed for 5600 yards. Made the Super Bowl against Broncos. I'll take 4 playoff appearances in a 9 year period.
So. It worked out pretty good for Newton and Carolina.
You confused about anything else?
Posted on 4/25/25 at 12:11 pm to burke985
I think there’s some truth to this
The leap from Colorado to the nfl is greater than it is from one of the top sec schools.
So he needs to grasp that and submit to the fact that he has a lot to learn
The leap from Colorado to the nfl is greater than it is from one of the top sec schools.
So he needs to grasp that and submit to the fact that he has a lot to learn
Posted on 4/25/25 at 12:18 pm to KiwiHead
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In the end you want accuracy
No there’s way more to football than just being accurate. Completion % is the only stat that this board seems to care about but it’s overrated
Posted on 4/25/25 at 12:27 pm to SlidellCajun
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Back to top The issue with Shadeur is the attitude
What has the kid said or did? The people on here speaking against him are basing judgement on him purely because his Deion Sanders’ son.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 12:38 pm to Magazine St
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What has the kid said or did
What rock have you lived under? Seriously….it’s out there.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 12:40 pm to GumboPot
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Look at the competition though. He better have good stats. Colorado's biggest competition was Nebraska or Kansas State last year.
Go look at who Dart put up his numbers against. 20 of his 29 passing TDs came against Furman, MTSU, Wake, Ga Southern, Arkansas, and Duke.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 12:41 pm to SlidellCajun
His dad poisoned him. He’ll wash out of the league relatively quickly.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 1:04 pm to KiwiHead
quote:yes, his play in those games. He sucked under pressure and couldn't win. Couldn't even jump on a ball, then acted like a loser in his conferences and always made things about himself.
So. It worked out pretty good for Newton and Carolina.
You confused about anything else?
So frick Cam and Carolina.
This post was edited on 4/25/25 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 4/25/25 at 1:07 pm to mikeytig
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Seems like it worked out pretty well for Cam.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 1:25 pm to Magazine St
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What has the kid said or did? The people on here speaking against him are basing judgement on him purely because his Deion Sanders’ son.
I don’t have particulars but there’s been reports of bad interviews
I think more will come out after the draft tho
Posted on 4/25/25 at 1:37 pm to High Life
5/1 TD to interception ratio
71% career completion percentage.
Average of 32 TDs to 7 ints a year in college
What more do you want? Yards per scramble or yards per pass or yards per reception
Ward was slightly better at 9.4 vs Sanders at 8.7. I think Dart was closer to 10.5 per reception . I would have been very happy with Dart. In fact the Saints screwed the pooch on passing on Dart in the 9th position.
If Carr does not play this year and they pass on Sanders, given the landscape of QBs this year in college, I'm thinking Loomis will have screwed this team for the next 3 years - minimum.
Right now, all you really have is Nussmeier and the guy at Clemson. I don't see anyone else right now that jumps out
71% career completion percentage.
Average of 32 TDs to 7 ints a year in college
What more do you want? Yards per scramble or yards per pass or yards per reception
Ward was slightly better at 9.4 vs Sanders at 8.7. I think Dart was closer to 10.5 per reception . I would have been very happy with Dart. In fact the Saints screwed the pooch on passing on Dart in the 9th position.
If Carr does not play this year and they pass on Sanders, given the landscape of QBs this year in college, I'm thinking Loomis will have screwed this team for the next 3 years - minimum.
Right now, all you really have is Nussmeier and the guy at Clemson. I don't see anyone else right now that jumps out
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