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Senior Bowl Stock Reports
Posted on 1/21/14 at 9:17 am
Posted on 1/21/14 at 9:17 am
5 up & 5 down
most relevant to Saints-
DE Trent Murphy, Stanford – The NCAA’s sack leader this season got off to a great start with an impressive practice with the North team Monday. Murphy is an athletic freak with a long wing span and his hands measured out as the biggest at the Senior Bowl (10 7/8 in.) He reminds me of J.J. Watt in that he’ll move up draft boards by impressing teams in his interviews with his character and knowledge of the game. He could be a mid-first-round pick by May.
other observations
I was surprised at the physique of Jordan Matthews (WR Vanderbilt). He's always struck me as a slight receiver, and I have expressed worry that he might get pushed around a bit at the next level because of it. Pads off, however, Matthews has a chiseled upper body that drew some remarks from team scouts sitting around me. Any concerns about him being weak are off the table.
Cyril Richardson (OG Baylor). This is a big man at 343 pounds, but he's clearly carrying some extra weight in the barrel. That said, he looks like the kind of guy who flips tractor tires for fun, and I know he can play football with the best of them. As a team, you draft him, buy him a few meal replacement bars and never say another word about his weight.
two bigger corners who immediately stuck out were Stanley Jean-Baptiste (CB Nebraska) and Keith McGill (CB Utah). Both of these guys can play football in addition to being tall drinks of water.
most relevant to Saints-
DE Trent Murphy, Stanford – The NCAA’s sack leader this season got off to a great start with an impressive practice with the North team Monday. Murphy is an athletic freak with a long wing span and his hands measured out as the biggest at the Senior Bowl (10 7/8 in.) He reminds me of J.J. Watt in that he’ll move up draft boards by impressing teams in his interviews with his character and knowledge of the game. He could be a mid-first-round pick by May.
other observations
I was surprised at the physique of Jordan Matthews (WR Vanderbilt). He's always struck me as a slight receiver, and I have expressed worry that he might get pushed around a bit at the next level because of it. Pads off, however, Matthews has a chiseled upper body that drew some remarks from team scouts sitting around me. Any concerns about him being weak are off the table.
Cyril Richardson (OG Baylor). This is a big man at 343 pounds, but he's clearly carrying some extra weight in the barrel. That said, he looks like the kind of guy who flips tractor tires for fun, and I know he can play football with the best of them. As a team, you draft him, buy him a few meal replacement bars and never say another word about his weight.
two bigger corners who immediately stuck out were Stanley Jean-Baptiste (CB Nebraska) and Keith McGill (CB Utah). Both of these guys can play football in addition to being tall drinks of water.
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Posted on 1/21/14 at 9:21 am to blueslover
Posted on 1/21/14 at 9:40 am to blueslover
Richardson was someone mid-season I was thinking we might draft to groom for '15 season or replacement mid-season if grubbs/evans stunk next year (considering that we're stuck with grubbs/evans no matter what due to cap implications next year).
1st round might be too hefty of a price since we have other needs (WR/CB) that needs to be filled first.
1st round might be too hefty of a price since we have other needs (WR/CB) that needs to be filled first.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 9:45 am to blueslover
Here's who we met with today:
quote:
New Orleans Saints - Northern Illinois safety Jimmie Ward, Baylor safety Ahmad Dixon, Wisconsin running back James White, Penn State defensive tackle DaQuan Jones and Iowa tight end C.J. Fiedorowicz.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 9:46 am to blueslover
quote:
Jordan Matthews (WR Vanderbilt)
sign me up
Posted on 1/21/14 at 9:51 am to WB504
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Matthews, a cousin of the legendary Jerry Rice, is a better football player than he is an athlete. While he led the SEC with a gaudy 19.0 yards-per-catch average last season, he has good (but not great) build-up speed. His size allows him to be moved inside and out in Vandy's offense, allowing the team to find him favorable matchups and has very good hand-eye coordination to haul in tough passes, including one-handed catches.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:02 am to Fleur de Diable
quote:
Wisconsin running back James White
very interesting player. he can do it all, but he's mocked around the 5th round.
breakout year with 1444 yards (6.5ypc) 14 TDs and 300 yards receiving and 2 TDs
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:18 am to blueslover
This rotoworld article seems to give an update on most players.
Examples:
Examples:
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Edge rusher Trent Murphy, Stanford - I was a big fan of Murphy’s pass rushing skills including his outstanding hands, but we didn’t see much of that on Monday as he had trouble dealing with Zach Martin (who I project down to guard) and Seantrel Henderson who is the longest offensive lineman at the Senior Bowl.
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OLB Kyle Van Noy, BYU - Does everything SO well on a football field. Coverage, rush the edge, pursuit, you name Van Noy has it. The Jaguars coaches got on him a bit during individual drills because they didn’t think he was flying through a drill. It’s just that he makes it look effortless. He made plays throughout the practice in coverage. It’s not a surprise to me as I’ve got him in my top 15 on our TSV Big Board but I value production and intelligence more than anything. Van Noy has all of it.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:32 am to bbrownso
Have we ever drafted anyone we've been seen speaking to at the Senior Bowl? 
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:35 am to bbrownso
im a big Van Noy fan
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:49 am to Lester Earl
good inputs, keep'em coming
Posted on 1/21/14 at 12:30 pm to Lester Earl
quote:I have been a big fan of his since his bowl game last year
im a big Van Noy fan
Posted on 1/21/14 at 12:31 pm to blueslover
Got some more info regarding who the Saints talked to Monday at the Senior Bowl:
Saints Tuesday North Prospect Meetings:
Monday's North Practice report:
Walterfootball.com 1st North Practice
quote:
New Orleans Saints: Utah CB Keith McGill, Georgia Tech OLB Jeremiah Attaochu, North Dakota State OT Billy Turner
Saints Tuesday North Prospect Meetings:
quote:
New Orleans Saints - Wisconsin safety Dez Southward, Utah State center Tyler Larsen, Wisconsin tight end Jacob Pedersen, UCLA wide receiver Shaq Evans and Miami quarterback Stephen Morris.
Monday's North Practice report:
Walterfootball.com 1st North Practice
Posted on 1/21/14 at 12:38 pm to bbrownso
quote:I'd love to see the Saints draft Turner in round 3, but I don't think he lasts that long. I think he goes late 2nd, early 3rd.
North Dakota State OT Billy Turner
Posted on 1/21/14 at 12:40 pm to L.A.
another good report
While former Vols DT McCULLERS is the giant of the group this year, but he’s running around with big old knee brace on his left knee. And he looks stiff and upright a little hesitant to bend and turn on that knee. He just does not look 100% healthy to me. Give him credit for toughing this out.
BYU OLB KYLE VAN NOY looks to be the best all-around LB in this game to me. He has excellent size at 6’3/244. He is also agile and hostile. He can stop the run, rush the passer and drop into pass coverage without skipping a beat. He made multiple plays in drills this afternoon. Expect more of the same all week long.
CHRIS SMITH comes out of Arkansas as a highly decorated, pass-rushing DE. But he checked in this morning at 6’1”, 266 lbs. You just don’t find very many DE in the NFL these days that short and lightweight. But as SMITH showed in drills at practice today he is super quick, has great balance and pure athleticism to pursue the ball and/or the QB. Look for the coaches to run him a bit with the LB group this week to see how he plays standing up.
Minnesota DT RA’SHEDE HAGEMAN really showed some dominance in one-on-one pass-blocking drills today. He overpowered and/or blew by several linemen. He didn’t totally defeat everyone every snap, but the flashes were many and eye catching.
While former Vols DT McCULLERS is the giant of the group this year, but he’s running around with big old knee brace on his left knee. And he looks stiff and upright a little hesitant to bend and turn on that knee. He just does not look 100% healthy to me. Give him credit for toughing this out.
BYU OLB KYLE VAN NOY looks to be the best all-around LB in this game to me. He has excellent size at 6’3/244. He is also agile and hostile. He can stop the run, rush the passer and drop into pass coverage without skipping a beat. He made multiple plays in drills this afternoon. Expect more of the same all week long.
CHRIS SMITH comes out of Arkansas as a highly decorated, pass-rushing DE. But he checked in this morning at 6’1”, 266 lbs. You just don’t find very many DE in the NFL these days that short and lightweight. But as SMITH showed in drills at practice today he is super quick, has great balance and pure athleticism to pursue the ball and/or the QB. Look for the coaches to run him a bit with the LB group this week to see how he plays standing up.
Minnesota DT RA’SHEDE HAGEMAN really showed some dominance in one-on-one pass-blocking drills today. He overpowered and/or blew by several linemen. He didn’t totally defeat everyone every snap, but the flashes were many and eye catching.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 1:09 pm to bbrownso
quote:
UCLA wide receiver Shaq Evans
Evans would be a good choice late/undrafted.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 2:08 pm to mm2316
Watching Seattle and San Fran on Sunday, I'd still be shocked if we didn't go OL in the first. Those defenses are just nasty.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 2:22 pm to blueslover
quote:
- Players aren’t supposed to be delivering big hits, but that didn’t stop Baylor safety Ahmad Dixon from leveling Saginaw Valley State wide receiver Jeff Janis during the North practice
Posted on 1/21/14 at 2:37 pm to blueslover
Blues - you probably pay more attention than most of us to prospects. Who in your opinion is van noy comparable to in the NFL today? Doesn't have to be too accurate lol
Posted on 1/21/14 at 2:47 pm to blueslover
Stanley Jean-Baptiste (6-foot-2 3/8, 215) CB, Nebraska is the player that has me the the most intrigued. I haven't seen much film of him yet but I would love to have a big corner in the Seattle mold. I think every team needs a player like that to cover the big receivers and the WR/TE's like Graham, Gronk and Davis. If the Saints could grab him in the 4th RD that would be great but I think he goes in the 3rd RD.
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