re: SEC tonight says saints talking to Russell Sheppard from Lsu

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Fox Mulder: weed smoking thug POS. he's too small anyway. Glad the saints didnt draft this loser.

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Of course.

I have no problem with him on the practice squad as a waterboy

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He isn't a good cover guy, which is something we need

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Well that's just not true, he is a pretty good coverage guy. He was rarely beat in college and the throws that did beat him were throws that would beat any cornerback. I can go back and look at every cornerback's film and find plays they were beat by perfect throws over the top of them. He was in great position 90% of the time and has great ball skills.

He may not be able to lock down guys on the outside consistently in the NFL, but he is a playmaker with good hips, coverage and ball skills. That's exactly what the Saints need.

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You find 1st round potential in the 3rd with a caveat. I think that's TM7. I'm not going to debate his skills. His résumé speaks for itself on the field.

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In college. Go back and watch that national title game. His cover skills aren't that good.

Have no problem signing him as an UDFA. He's not getting drafted.

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That's a huge part of why players get drafted in the NFL. What they did in college. One bad game changes nothing. Show me an LSU player that had a good game that night. It also didnt help the offense was totally inept leaving them on the field the entire game, yet Alabama only scored 21 in a shutout. 9 points in the first half.

TM7 is going in the 3rd regardless of who drafts him.

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Most of the defense actually had a decent game considering what the offense did. I particularly remember him getting burnt multiple times though.

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TM7 is going in the 3rd regardless of who drafts him

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We will see. You claim you aren't undervaluing the 3rd pick, but you really are. As you pointed out, we got Graham there, so you can obviously get superstars there. But you want us to pick a 5'8 cb with below average cover skills. One who has proven he can't stay out of trouble. Then you want to drop him in the middle of New Orleans, which is where he's from and the trouble stems from in the first place. Yeah, that's a super idea.

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Had I been on the jimmy graham bandwagon in 2010 everyone would say

"Who?"

"Oh, but he's only played football for a year."

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Nah, there were plenty of people on here who thought Jimmy would be good.

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None of us know. I think he has a chance to be a star. I don't know he is going to be a star. You seem I know he's going to be a dud. And again with the coverage skills. One bad game and it's not like he got lit up. The results speak for themselves. No defender has had a season like that and he did it playing against the best competition in the nation.

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I think he won't be good because of his size and I'm not crazy about his coverage skills. I also do not like the trouble he gets in. To me, there's no way he's worth a 3rd, especially with the shape we're in with draft picks. And he did get lit up in that Bama game.

And you don't think any defender has ever had a season like that? Come on, man. You are basically saying he had the best season ever for a defensive player. While it was great, I'm sure there are some just as good, if not better.

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Crazy a guy with a 7 ypc average could only muster 26 carries a year, on average.

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It's not that crazy that a guy with limited carries has an inflated ypc. Also that ypc is skewed by big runs against lesser competetion. If you look at carries against SEC teams, his ypc is closer to 5.5.

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Or a guy who averaged a TD every 12 catches only got targeted enough to catch about 14 balls a year

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Got any stats on how many targets he had or target to catch ratio?

Shepard struggled to get open most of his career and a good portion of his TDs came on designed screens. He averaged 9.8 yards per catch, not exactly great.

NFL guys aren't asking him to go through DB drills because he was misused on offense, he simply wasn't that great.

Shep has value to an NFL because of his versatility if he can show some skill at DB.

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completions against him =/= getting exposed

If this is his worst game in college, then damn.

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Exaclty, Mathieu's performance that game got overblown because he was coming off winning the Bednarik and getting votes for Heisman.

He didn't have his usual game changing plays and the Bama QB/TE made some great passes/catches. Bama fans got to talk shite how they owned Mathieu and it stuck in a lot of people's heads around here. But that was far from exposing Mathieu.