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re: Sean Payton’s QB is finished, which probably means Broncos are done
Posted on 1/18/26 at 9:58 am to Bayou
Posted on 1/18/26 at 9:58 am to Bayou
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How is the ball live when the receiver went down with possession. Play is dead.
Because it's not considered a completion until the player hits the ground and maintains possession through that impact. You know this; it's been the rule for many many years. You may not like the rule, but it is what it is.
When the WR hit the ground, that ball clearly came loose. The DB had his hands on it already, and he secured it himself without it ever touching the ground. Like it or not, that is 100% an INT, and it was a brilliant play by that DB
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Posted on 1/18/26 at 10:12 am to Bayou
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How is the ball live when the receiver went down with possession. Play is dead.
If that ball squirted out amidst Cooks and the defender going to the ground, would it have been a Cooks fumble?
Posted on 1/18/26 at 10:15 am to GynoSandberg
I thought he caught it went to ground touched by DB and then had it stripped. A catch and down by conract to me. Was it reviewed?
Posted on 1/18/26 at 10:21 am to BZ504
Karma man. It always finds Sean. One way or another.
Posted on 1/18/26 at 10:25 am to ShoughTFU
Yall know Sean
By midweek his hubris will take over and he’ll be thinking of the legacy glazing he’ll get if he can get to the Super Bowl with a backup quarterback.
By midweek his hubris will take over and he’ll be thinking of the legacy glazing he’ll get if he can get to the Super Bowl with a backup quarterback.
Posted on 1/18/26 at 10:36 am to S
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By midweek his hubris will take over and he’ll be thinking of the legacy glazing he’ll get if he can get to the Super Bowl with a backup quarterback.
Yep and he will come close and get a bunch of praise. His fanbase will say look how awesome a coach he is. And in the end it will go down as yet another season with a big nothing in the playoffs.
This post was edited on 1/18/26 at 10:36 am
Posted on 1/18/26 at 10:36 am to goatmilker
Folks are clamoring his knee was down and was touched, but a player going to the ground to catch a pass must maintain control during and after contact with the ground.
Don’t have a dog in the fight but this seems to be generally accepted by unbiased rule knowers. The did review the call in New York
quote:
Referee Carl Cheffers spoke in a pool report: "The receiver has to complete the process of a catch. He was going to the ground as part of the process of the catch and he lost possession of the ball when he hit the ground. The defender gained possession of it at that point. The defender is the one that completed the process of the catch, so the defender was awarded the ball.
Don’t have a dog in the fight but this seems to be generally accepted by unbiased rule knowers. The did review the call in New York
Posted on 1/18/26 at 10:44 am to GynoSandberg
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If that ball squirted out amidst Cooks and the defender going to the ground, would it have been a Cooks fumble?
If it hit the ground it's likely an incomplete pass
Someone on the MSB posted a play with Shaheed (as a Saint) vs. the Colts which seemed similar... was called an interception... reviewed... & overturned to a catch
The big difference was Shaheed had his hands on the ball 1st... still had the ball in his hands as he & the IND DB went to the ground battling for it... and still had his hands on the ball until after several moments of fighting for it while on the ground
In this case... Cooks loses almost immediately upon hitting the ground and I do believe this was a "must survive the ground" situation... since Cooks didn't & the DEN DB did... interception (ETA: just saw the post above where referee Carl Cheffers said this paragraph is exactly the call made)
This post was edited on 1/18/26 at 10:54 am
Posted on 1/18/26 at 10:54 am to rt3
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If it hit the ground it's likely an incomplete pass
Right. So it wouldn’t have been a Cooks fumble, thus he didn’t have possession. Maintaining possession through the ground has been a hot button issue ever since the Dez play in Green Bay years ago
Posted on 1/18/26 at 11:08 am to BZ504
Payton used “lagniappe” in his post game presser. Championship forthcoming.
Posted on 1/18/26 at 11:19 am to GynoSandberg
I never saw a bobble. But I never saw when the DB touched it first either lol it was a very bang bang play.
Posted on 1/18/26 at 11:27 am to Midget Death Squad
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Because it's not considered a completion until the player hits the ground and maintains possession through that impact. You know this; it's been the rule for many many years. You may not like the rule, but it is what it is.
https://x.com/Rate_the_Refs/status/1997771731604300085
Explain this then. NFL overturned the call and said this was a catch. And then the head office defended it days later and said they got it right.
One of the calls was bs.
This post was edited on 1/18/26 at 11:29 am
Posted on 1/18/26 at 11:32 am to goatmilker
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I thought he caught it went to ground touched by DB and then had it stripped. A catch and down by conract to me. Was it reviewed?
Nope. Not a long official review.
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/walt-anderson-nfl-didnt-stop-bills-broncos-for-replay-review-to-move-the-game-along
This post was edited on 1/18/26 at 11:33 am
Posted on 1/18/26 at 11:34 am to Townedrunkard
Things we know so far:
1. Simultaneous catch goes to offense (green Bay)
Otherwise, what's right? The saints game or this one?
1. Simultaneous catch goes to offense (green Bay)
Otherwise, what's right? The saints game or this one?
Posted on 1/18/26 at 11:46 am to BZ504
Broncos don't belong in AFC championship game. Bills screwed over just like Saints were against Rams few years ago. This shite is fixed.
Posted on 1/18/26 at 12:02 pm to goatmilker
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At the end of the day, one’s definition of completing a catch through the ground is still subjective. The timing of it, at least.
Posted on 1/18/26 at 2:10 pm to htran90
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Otherwise, what's right? The saints game or this one?
These are not the same scenarios
In one, the Receiver catches the ball, the Defender gets his hands on the ball and the defender rips the ball out of his hands when they both come to the ground with the ground never causing the ball to come free.
In the other, the Receiver catches the ball, the Defender gets his hands on the ball (here's where things become different), and as they both come down to the ground, the ground knocks the ball free from the Receiver and the Defender gains possession of it without it ever touching the ground.
The other way to look at this is as such:
If the defender never comes away with the ball in either of these two plays, how would the judgement on the field be ruled?
Pitt: A completion by Rodgers
Buff: An incompletion due to not retaining possession when going to the ground
That answers everything you need to know
Posted on 1/18/26 at 4:11 pm to BZ504
Really wanted Allen and Bulls to win
Posted on 1/18/26 at 5:08 pm to BZ504
You obviously are not old enough to remember Phil Simms getting injured for the giants and Jeff hofstetler taking over and winning the Super Bowl for the giants. It can be done. It’ll be tough but not impossible.
Posted on 1/18/26 at 9:26 pm to porge7106
IIRC, Jeff Hostetler was a proven, veteran back-up.
A far cry from Stidham.
A far cry from Stidham.
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