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Sean Payton poaching more staff from the Saints

Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:28 am
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:28 am
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This hurts: NewOrleans.Football’s Nick Underhill reports that Sean Payton’s Denver Broncos are hiring more staff away from the Saints, this time poaching Jeff Ireland’s right-hand man.

Cody Rager spent nine years in New Orleans as a West Coast area scout before being bumped up to the national level, and he was promoted in 2021 to work as assistant college scouting director. He’s now leaving for a new role in Denver’s front office.

Payton took a number of longtime Saints assistants with him to the Broncos last offseason. Rager is just the latest departure, but he’s an impactful loss. With the roster getting older and the team short on draft picks, New Orleans needs all the help it can get in evaluating this year’s prospects to add the right players to the team. Hopefully they can find a capable replacement already on staff.


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Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
10777 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:34 am to
Hopefully he "steals" Thomas next
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
10898 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:37 am to
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Cody Rager spent nine years in New Orleans as a West Coast area scout before being bumped up to the national level, and he was promoted in 2021 to work as assistant college scouting director. He’s now leaving for a new role in Denver’s front office.


List of college players he oversaw the drafting of..



Year Rd Player
2023 1 Bryan Bresee
2023 2 Isaiah Foskey
2023 3 Kendre Mille
2023 4 Nick Saldiveri
2023 4 Jake Haener
2023 5 Jordan Howden
2023 6 A.T. Perry

2022 1 Chris Olave
2022 1 Trevor Penning
2022 2 Alontae Taylor
2022 5 D'Marco Jackson
2022 6 Jordan Jackson

2021 1 Payton Turner
2021 2 Pete Werner
2021 3 Paulson Adebo
2021 4 Ian Book
2021 6 Landon Young
2021 7 Kawaan Baker

Maybe the Saints could do better.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
10898 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 9:59 am to
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Hopefully he "steals" Thomas next


Is it really stealing if the Saints buy the plane ticket though?
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16334 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 10:26 am to
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Maybe the Saints could do better.

Don't forget to see how he did the 9 years scouting the West Coast:
2012-2020

2020: No West coast draft picks
2019: No West coast draft picks
2018: No West coast draft picks
2017: Marcus Williams (Is Utah close enough to be covered by a West Coast Scout) 2nd Rd from Utah
2016: Daniel Lasco - 7th Rd from Cal
2015: Peat - 1st Rd Stanford
2015: Kikaha - 2nd round Wash
2015: Tyler Davidson - 5th Rd Fresno St
2014: Cooks - 1st Rd Oregon St
2014: Fortt - 4th Rd Cal
2013: No West coast draft picks
2012: No West coast draft picks

I guess that promotion was for his scouting work he did on players we passed on
Posted by NOSA
Member since Jan 2004
9622 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 10:32 am to
He’s a scout, he’s not making the decision on which player to draft.
Posted by Parrish
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
2100 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 11:10 am to
Scouts can champion guys but they ultimately aren't making the draft pick. We have no idea what guys Rager liked and didn't like for us as outsiders to evaluate him ourselves.

I don't know if it's done or not, but internally scout grades can be compared later to actual professional grades to see who does a good job. What team top 10 graded player did a scout give a second round grade to and then the player busted? What fifth round did a scout grade in third round that turned into a pro-bowl player? Teams should know this stuff internally.
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 11:12 am
Posted by Champs
Geaux Tigers
Member since Feb 2008
11699 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 11:28 am to
i remember when he was mad at LSU for taking 1
Posted by ShlikStyck
Bum F**k Egypt
Member since Jan 2005
3784 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 2:12 pm to
Maybe they'll actually draft football players now instead of "projects" with "upside" because they are "just injury prone"
Posted by tigerterrace
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Sep 2016
3396 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:04 pm to
It is sad in a way that Payton has been in the league for over two decades combined between being an assistant and HC and all his contacts can do is put the old band back together.

No vision of watching other talent and wanting to bring in what they are doing to the mix.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27189 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 9:22 pm to
The Saints love wasting 4 and 5th rounders.

Ian book. Saldiveri. Jake haener. Demarco Jackson.

You can't keep wasting 4th rounders on tiny qbs, that on their best day might be a backup.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70923 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 9:26 pm to
He wants to get the band back together.

He needs to upgrade his defense.

I wonder who on the Saints sideline would check both boxes...
Posted by Recoveringcajun
Banjo country
Member since Aug 2022
881 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 6:58 am to
Oh no! He’s stealing away the staff and players of a team that couldn’t make the playoffs! Oh no!

Also, it’s like he likes his co-workers and likes the job but would rather do it with the same staff in a place like Denver instead of in a sh!thole like New Orleans. How oh how could he be like that?
This post was edited on 2/8/24 at 7:01 am
Posted by BTRDD
Member since Jun 2009
3393 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:32 am to
Well, we know it wasn't his personel that ran him off.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64285 posts
Posted on 2/8/24 at 11:36 am to
Nope. Just playing hide the sausage with the dolphins.
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
3648 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 6:46 am to
That’s what coaches do,
Posted by armytiger33
Vestavia Hills, Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
346 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 9:38 am to
Any chance he poaches DA?
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
9565 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 9:45 am to
I mean, why leave New Orleans if he’s just going to build the same thing he had here?
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
5688 posts
Posted on 2/11/24 at 11:44 am to
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Sean Payton poaching more staff from the Saints


Taking the Adam Sandler approach to coaching.
Posted by ShlikStyck
Bum F**k Egypt
Member since Jan 2005
3784 posts
Posted on 2/16/24 at 1:44 pm to
Exactly, if the last 5 drafts are any indication of talent evaluation....clean house.
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