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Saints sign rookie mini camp invite JT Barrett to a 3 year deal

Posted on 5/1/18 at 12:55 pm
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/1/18 at 12:55 pm
Rap tweet:

quote:

It’s a 3-year deal for Barrett and the #Saints. Perhaps a future investment



Am I missing something here? I know it was theorized that he would be signed so he would go to another teams mini camp, but 3 years?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115871 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 12:59 pm to
There are 3 year deals and there are "3 year deals".

My guess is its the latter, ie very little (if anything) in the way of guarantees.

The appearance of commitment without much in the way of any actual commitment. If you strike gold you have a player locked in, and you get him to camp by giving him the "3 year deal".
This post was edited on 5/1/18 at 1:00 pm
Posted by NOSA
Member since Jan 2004
9625 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 1:01 pm to
We've signed players with little chance of making the roster to 3 year deals before. I don't know the reasoning for doing it, but it means nothing as far as chances of making the team.
This post was edited on 5/1/18 at 1:02 pm
Posted by TechDawg2007
Bawville
Member since Nov 2007
32249 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 1:01 pm to
We finally passing out prove it deals
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/1/18 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

Am I missing something here?


yes, the fact that they mean and guarantee nothing. its really only in the Saints interest if in fact they do end up panning out.
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 1:05 pm to
3 year deal is the same deal EVERY UDFA gets.

With the way it works, even if they signed him to a one year deal they'd still own his rights as he'd be an exclusives rights FA until he accrues 3 seasons, at which point he becomes a RFA.

The only odd thing here is the way Rap reported it. All these deals are exactly the same, all for vet minimum over 3 years. Only difference may be signing bonus and how much is guaranteed (usually very little).
This post was edited on 5/1/18 at 1:08 pm
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 5/1/18 at 1:05 pm to
Tryout guys don’t get a contract or paid anything

Barrett is now a UDFA with a contract
This post was edited on 5/1/18 at 1:06 pm
Posted by Gumbyxl
Gretna
Member since Apr 2004
778 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 1:18 pm to
He was probably signed that way due to competitive teams interested in luring him away.
This post was edited on 5/1/18 at 1:42 pm
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31590 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 1:23 pm to
Maybe we are hoping he becomes our Pryor
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72018 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 1:38 pm to
No doubt

And he chose us bc our backups are bad, drew has a few years left, and SP. he has a real shot here

Plus our OSU guys
This post was edited on 5/1/18 at 1:38 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/1/18 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

And he chose us bc our backups are bad


more about learning from the best imo.
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

Plus our OSU guys



He wants to be in the pics next year.



Actually, I'm semi-serrious
Posted by Thracken13
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Member since Feb 2010
15995 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 1:52 pm to
which is a good thing to be sure - hell it shows the guy wants to learn and put forth the effort to do so.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42619 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 2:31 pm to
He will be the practice squad QB is my guess
Taysom Hill will get every chance to win the backup role in preseason
Savage will also get a shot as well to prove he can be the clip board holder
The good thing with Hill is you keep him around for special teams again
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 6:00 pm to
quote:

He was probably signed that way due to competitive teams interested in luring him awa


ALL UDFAs get 3 year deals.

If we signed him to a 1 year deal and it expired he would still be an exclusive rights FA, meaning no other team could talk to or sign him if we gave him a minimum tender offer.

This is why ALL UDFAs get 3 year deals, because it would wind up working out as such anyway.

This is just Rap trying to make something sound more than it is like always.
This post was edited on 5/1/18 at 6:02 pm
Posted by geauxtigers87
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2011
25205 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 6:03 pm to
quote:

ALL UDFAs get 3 year deals.



Huh. Did not know this. Makes sense though.
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 6:14 pm to
If you ever notice a guy get waived and brought back on a one year deal, if he isn't waived again and he hits FA he becomes an EFRA.

This happens until he accrues 3 seasons, which at that point the next time he hits FA he becomes a RFA.

This is why the standard is 3 years. They'd be the team's "property" anyway (unless waived and claimed by someone else), yet if they did 4 years they'd miss being a RFA, losing money.

This is why players drafted in the later rounds (5-7) would rather be UDFAs instead of getting drafted because draft contracts are 4 years and they are making minimum for one more year while UDFAs get to cash in a bit as RFAs that 4th year.
This post was edited on 5/1/18 at 6:15 pm
Posted by UptownnMike
Uptown New Orleans
Member since Aug 2015
4067 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 8:52 pm to
All rookie deals drafted or Undrafted are 3 years minimum.
This post was edited on 5/1/18 at 8:53 pm
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 5/1/18 at 9:12 pm to
Drafted players have 4 year deals (of course 1st rounders have 5th year options).

The new cba is pretty strict and structured as far as rookies go. Every drafted player HAS to have a 4 year deal, no more, no less.
Posted by BatonRougeBuckeye
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2013
1787 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 10:13 am to
quote:

quote:
Plus our OSU guys


He wants to be in the pics next year.



Actually, I'm semi-serrious


I think there is definitely something to that. Part of it is JT wanting to come play with his boys and some of it is Sean Payton's relationship with Urban Meyer and the success he has had drafting OSU players who show up ready to compete. I don't really think Barrett is an NFL QB but he does have leadership skills and was a pretty good runner. Perhaps a slot receiver and a backup QB. might help with the salary cap.
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