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re: Saints/Loomis/Payton accused of drug cover up-Shite just got real
Posted on 5/3/10 at 9:25 am to HubCityTiger1
Posted on 5/3/10 at 9:25 am to HubCityTiger1
Puts a whole new spin on Sean Paytons "juicy-fruit" addiction 
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Posted on 5/3/10 at 9:48 am to stapuffmarshy
Unfortunatley there IS video evidence on Vitt. To my knowledge (which isn't all knowing) there isn't any on Payton. However there appears to be a pain pill issue within the organization which of course isn't top secret info at this point.
Posted on 5/3/10 at 9:53 am to Da Hammer
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To my knowledge (which isn't all knowing) there isn't any on Payton.
God I hope you're right. It would be so much easier for them to dismiss Payton from the whole thing if this is true. If Payton isn't deemed as a culprit, I don't think this thing will be a big deal.
Posted on 5/3/10 at 10:42 am to rintintin
I hope on that also, but I am pretty sure about it on Payton. However don't get me wrong there is evidence to support a pill problem. However none of this has made it through any grand juries and with the wave of emotion following last seaoson a grand jury must still indict for this to go anywhere.
Posted on 5/3/10 at 10:43 am to Da Hammer
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a grand jury must still indict for this to go anywhere.
in a criminal prosecution
this lawsuit gets around all of that
Posted on 5/3/10 at 10:56 am to SlowFlowPro
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there is no explanation for a video of a coach committing a felony
How about this..."We privately informed the authorities and they chose to take no action."
They have no duty to go public with every internal event, criminal or otherwise.
Posted on 5/3/10 at 11:22 am to SlowFlowPro
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this lawsuit gets around all of that
Yes in this particular case, however you are making the assumption there are no other proceedings on this issue. I am not.
Posted on 5/3/10 at 11:27 am to Da Hammer
without reading any of this thread....so this would not be a huge deal at all if not for the lawsuit, correct?
Posted on 5/3/10 at 11:57 am to tigerbait3488
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Vicodin is a controlled substance...not a narcotic. I work in pharmacy and its my job to know this. A narcotic is a schedule 2. Vicodin is a schedule 3 controlled substance. Soma was not sonsidered a controlled until last year. So to the people who want me to know the facts...get a fricking clue.
Vicodin, even though it's a CIII, is considered what we in the biz call a "narcotic"... "narcotics" are NOT just CII's... i work in a pharmacy too... in fact, i'm the guy with the white coat that runs that son of a bitch and if you really want to get into a pissing contest about the facts about drugs, i will be much obliged to do so, son....
so before you go off with your little "i work in a pharmacy" rant, always know there is someone lurking around here with more knowledge than you on some issue you decide to insert your foot into your mouth about...
Posted on 5/3/10 at 12:00 pm to el tigre
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so this would not be a huge deal at all if not for the lawsuit, correct?
it depends on if anything was covered up, and i mean that we don't know what the NFL knows bout this. if they were cut out of the loop it would be very bad. same thing with criminal authorities
Posted on 5/3/10 at 12:01 pm to Farva
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They have no duty to go public with every internal event, criminal or otherwise.
i assume with a "cover up" alleged, they didn't inform everybody of everything...namely the NFL
Posted on 5/3/10 at 12:02 pm to chRxis
and for the "is it really a big deal" crowd, yeah, it's a big deal.... theft or loss of controlled substances is EXACTLY the type of thing the DEA eats up and loves to get their hands on... there's even a DEA form designated specifically for theft and loss of controlled substances (Form 106)... had to fill one out the other day actually because someone at UPS decided to swipe 2 bottles of generic Percocet from me.... bastards....
anyway, prescription drug abuse is becoming rampant, and honestly, as i see it, it is no. 2 behind meth as the biggest drug problems on the horizon for society...
anyway, prescription drug abuse is becoming rampant, and honestly, as i see it, it is no. 2 behind meth as the biggest drug problems on the horizon for society...
Posted on 5/3/10 at 12:03 pm to el tigre
Mostly.
The Joe Vitt stuff was already handled, as he was reported to the DEA, sent to treatment, and given in-house discipline. The Saints claim to have heard nothing back from the DEA since sending the report in last year.
The Payton stuff is more questionable, as omitting him from the DEA report could be considered perjury and may open an investigation into why he had so many pills without a prescription or a condition necessitating their use.
The Joe Vitt stuff was already handled, as he was reported to the DEA, sent to treatment, and given in-house discipline. The Saints claim to have heard nothing back from the DEA since sending the report in last year.
The Payton stuff is more questionable, as omitting him from the DEA report could be considered perjury and may open an investigation into why he had so many pills without a prescription or a condition necessitating their use.
Posted on 5/3/10 at 12:06 pm to chRxis
i do, however, think that without the lawsuit, this never comes to light and no one ever knows a thing, outside the organization... to me, the theft and misuse of the medication is a big deal... the whole world finding out about it is secondary to the fact that someone in the Saints organization has/had a drug problem during our best year ever.... kind of tarnishes the trophy a bit for me...
Posted on 5/3/10 at 12:10 pm to chRxis
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the whole world finding out about it is secondary to the fact that someone in the Saints organization has/had a drug problem during our best year ever.... kind of tarnishes the trophy a bit for me...
As opposed to all those teams in the 70s, 80s, and 90s who won with players juiced to the gills on steroids and/or whacked out of their minds on coke?
If the only two people using on the team were the *coaches*, I don't see it tarnishing the title. If the players were abusing, especially one or more key players, I could agree with you.
Posted on 5/3/10 at 12:16 pm to teke184
see that "for me", that incurs MY OPINION... who are you to tell me MY OPINION is wrong or invalid???
Posted on 5/3/10 at 12:22 pm to chRxis
It's *your opinion*, but that doesn't mean that I can't give *MY opinion* that *your opinion* is stupid.
After growing up watching the Cowboys winning multiple titles with a bunch of crackheads on the team, I don't think that a few coaches taking painkillers would tarnish a title.
After growing up watching the Cowboys winning multiple titles with a bunch of crackheads on the team, I don't think that a few coaches taking painkillers would tarnish a title.
Posted on 5/3/10 at 12:28 pm to teke184
i'm gonna hold my tongue on your "your opinion is stupid" comment...
here's a thought... when someone offers their opinion, i suggest you handle your comments with more tact... telling someone they are "stupid" for an opinion, in and of itself, is pretty dumb too...
anyway, back to the story.... i was reading peter king's article and from what i can deduce from it is the Saints knew about Payton's drug problem (Vitt was stealing the pills for Payton, and i'm sure for himself too) and submitted some documents to the DEA in June, but they didn't include Payton's name on anything... they haven't heard from the DEA since... this FBI security guy was looking for a payoff to stay quiet, the Saints knowing they already submitted stuff to the DEA, called his bluff and he blabbed about who actually took the pills... now the fact that the identity was withheld is the real problem, not the actual taking of the pills...
i'll be really interested to see what the DEA does in this case...
here's a thought... when someone offers their opinion, i suggest you handle your comments with more tact... telling someone they are "stupid" for an opinion, in and of itself, is pretty dumb too...
anyway, back to the story.... i was reading peter king's article and from what i can deduce from it is the Saints knew about Payton's drug problem (Vitt was stealing the pills for Payton, and i'm sure for himself too) and submitted some documents to the DEA in June, but they didn't include Payton's name on anything... they haven't heard from the DEA since... this FBI security guy was looking for a payoff to stay quiet, the Saints knowing they already submitted stuff to the DEA, called his bluff and he blabbed about who actually took the pills... now the fact that the identity was withheld is the real problem, not the actual taking of the pills...
i'll be really interested to see what the DEA does in this case...
Posted on 5/3/10 at 12:36 pm to chRxis
After dealing with a bunch of Viking idiots screaming about last year's NFCCG and how the Saints' SB title should get an asterisk over Payton's suspected painkiller use, I'm not in the mood to play nice about people's opinions on this subject as compared to any other topic.
Those particular whiners are getting under my skin and it boiled out in your direction instead of theirs.
Those particular whiners are getting under my skin and it boiled out in your direction instead of theirs.
Posted on 5/3/10 at 12:41 pm to eyeran
Sounds alot like there is no evidence against Loomis & Payton so their names were just thrown into the mix to add to the hype. If this guy would just file a suit and then leak Vitt only noone would give much of a shite but throw in really big names like Loomis & Payton then it's the biggest news going in the NFL. IMO the source that named the A & B subjects was in cahoots with Santini for the same reasons...noone would give a shite otherwise. frick all the technical shite. This looks like a classic disgruntled employee suit. Why would any idiot risk his fantastic job, reputation, and jail time when he could just as easily get by with only risking half because these pills are readily available to anyone with money?
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