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re: Saints defiant after military vet declines honor

Posted on 11/3/17 at 7:39 am to
Posted by GMoney2600
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
14731 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 7:39 am to
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I've supported the players the whole time in this. Because I think the outrage is people don't want to believe what they are actually kneeling for is going on.

I tell people instead of bitching why don't we try listening to what they are trying to say instead of yelling faux outrage.

It would be hypocritical of me not to give the same leverage to this veteran. He has the exact same right to refuse as the players did to kneel. So if the I support the players right to kneel then I support his right to refuse an award.

I think the saints response is a little petty and that kills me to say that. It could have been handled a little better.



My humble opinion is that you're ahead of your time or you are a very logical person.

It might take a while. Hopefully it happens in my lifetime. This country will be united eventually.
This post was edited on 11/3/17 at 7:44 am
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
11557 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 7:56 am to
The kneeling during the anthem was to cause a disrespectful scene.

Otherwise they would be protesting at police stations.

They literally kneeled during the most distasteful time and location possible during their entire week of life.
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
7930 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 7:58 am to
Then don't kneel during the National Anthem....... the Flag is the symbol of the military, not the police and sheriff's offices across the country.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 8:00 am to
The flag is not the damn symbol of the military. They have their own symbols.

The flag symbolizes the entirety of the US if anything.
Posted by Fleur de Diable
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
987 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 8:10 am to
They died for the flag?!?
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
21729 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 8:12 am to
quote:

people that booing when the Protest takes place during the National Anthem


So they disrespect the flag and the anthem by booing the players during the anthem because they think kneeling is disrespectful to the flag?
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7915 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 8:16 am to
quote:

the Flag is the symbol of the Military


They kinda have their own flags



The United States flag represents...well the United States


quote:

Then don't kneel during the National Anthem


faux outrage is evident. They did this once and haven't done it since.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 8:18 am to
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The. Protests. Are. Not. About. Disrespecting. The. Military.



What are the protests about? If you polled all the players on the Saints, you'd get atleast 20 different answers.

I'm not inferring that these protests are about disrespecting the military, I'm inferring a majority of them are just doing it because it's the "in" thing.
This post was edited on 11/3/17 at 8:31 am
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76447 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 8:29 am to
Funny how they keep saying its not about disrespect with compelling evidence from every state and thousands perhaps millions of citizens saying every day..."yes it is disrespectful."

A million upon a million ways to protest and get your message out. What they are doing I would never do and many others are expressing the same view point.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25839 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 8:35 am to
quote:

The NFL is one of the few organizations that is really positive to the military and veterans


Because the NFL liked the millions of dollars they were getting from the Dept of Defense.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 8:53 am to
quote:

The. Protests. Are. Not. About. Disrespecting. The. Military.


Then stop protesting during the raising of the flag and the playing of our anthem, which are symbols of what the military protects and dies for.

Where s fricking headband or some other ridiculous shite
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 8:55 am to
Players are doing it before the anthem and standing during it and are still getting booed.

So what is it?
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:10 am to
quote:

Fights for people to have the right of freedom of speech, angry that they express that right.


I’m really just tired of this shite. Our fans boo the team before the games for kneeling BEFORE the anthem, even though they stand during it. Even that’s offensive apparently.
are you going to cry?
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:12 am to
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He's a retired Navy Commander. Do you really think snowflake is the word to describe him?
yeah, he is calling this guy a snowflake and never served. he wouldn't last a day.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:15 am to
quote:

Players are doing it before the anthem and standing during it and are still getting booed.

So what is it?
This post was edited on 11/3/17 at 9:16 am
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71137 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:21 am to
quote:

The. Protests. Are. Not. About. Disrespecting. The. Military.



And flying the Confederate flag is not about honoring white supremacy or slavery. But most of your ilk don't buy that argument, just as I don't buy yours.
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:25 am to
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If he was calling the media to shite on them, they can come back at him.


Of course they can but it is rather stupid to attack the veteran they intended to honor. The Saints and the NFL really need a new PR team.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
16144 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:25 am to
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I'm inferring a majority of them are just doing it because it's the "in" thing.


Whether you agree with their position or not It isn't really that far-fetched to belive that a bunch of black players think the black community is treated unfairly by police. You by no means have to agree with them but to say a majority are doing it just the hell of it pretty far fetched.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:28 am to
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not It isn't really that far-fetched to belive that a bunch of black players think the black community is treated unfairly by police.


what's sad is they didn't really give 2 shits when will smith got clipped for keeping it a little 2 realz

Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25839 posts
Posted on 11/3/17 at 9:30 am to
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I’m really just tired of this shite. Our fans boo the team before the games for kneeling BEFORE the anthem, even though they stand during it. Even that’s offensive apparently.


frick the players. They took a knee in protest before the anthem during a moment of silence to honor a cop (black cop too btw) who was murdered in the line of duty by a career criminal. Now the front office has shown their stupidity by releasing a statement that comes off as very a-hole-ish in response to this Navy vet declining their award offer.
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