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re: RIP Will Smith

Posted on 4/11/16 at 3:07 pm to
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 3:07 pm to
My wife and I had the same skepticism about it being road rage just given the location
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12479 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

ask the police about it.


ask hayes about it!

but seriously, declaring i have a gun isnt grounds to shoot the dude. there has to be some more to the story if thats really going to be effective. which there could be.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47268 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 3:10 pm to
it all depends on how it went down... and of course what the witnesses say. if the witness testimony paints smith as the aggressor and then he claims he has a gun and reaches in his vehicle in an attempt to grab the gun, good chance this guy walks.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
176243 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 3:13 pm to
witness said Hayes was freaking out on this guy and wanting to fight Will. It appeared Will said the get a gun line out of defense.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108735 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 5:55 pm to
quote:

Hayes was freaking out on this guy and wanting to fight Will. It appeared Will said the get a gun line out of defense.
IF this is what happened, IF, then Hayes his screwed

But lesson for people, don't ever "tell someone you have a gun" in a fight situation. That is always taught number 1 in a defense class. It gives you a damn good chance of being shot.
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
23032 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 6:43 pm to
Holy smokes. After listening to Drews side of the story just now. Sounds even more tragic.

Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7933 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 6:44 pm to
shite i just got out of my car, what did drew say?
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
65444 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 6:45 pm to
RIP. I met him twice. He was a gentleman both times. I hope the killer gets the needle.
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
23032 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 6:49 pm to
Drew just said he shot Will, turned the gun on his wife and started shooting and also shot up the back seat. Then turned the gun back on Will and shot him again.

Eta. Said he shot at other people in the car. Whatever that means. Then turned the gun back on Will
This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 6:51 pm
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
65444 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 6:53 pm to
quote:

Are they really though? Why are they wasting time and energy on such petty bs when they could be trying to find solutions to real problems.

Of course it won't be easy and take many many years that is why no one wants to seriously try and work on it, it's much easier to appease the uneducated voters with feel good measures than it is to maybe hurt a few feelings to make real progress



Great post. I lived in NOLA for 28 years and watched a great city go down the sewer. It started with crack cocaine in the early '80s. Such a shame, especially for Will's family and friends. What a crying shame.

It's not the firearms, it's the dumbass pulling the trigger.

We will all miss you, Will.


Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108735 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 6:56 pm to
I sure hope Drew has facts and isn't talking straight from his arse. Really weird for him to say all this regardless
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
23032 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 7:01 pm to
I was in shock.
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
37950 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 7:02 pm to
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IF this is what happened, IF, then Hayes his screwed


He's fricked for following Smith after he was rear-ended. Nothing else matters after that, if I'm on the jury. Hayes cannot claim self-defense or SYG when he follows.
Posted by MUMFORD
Houston
Member since Nov 2008
1910 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 7:04 pm to
Deke just broke down as he closed the Monday broadcast.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108735 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 7:05 pm to
quote:

He's fricked for following Smith after he was rear-ended. Nothing else matters after that, if I'm on the jury. Hayes cannot claim self-defense or SYG when he follows.
Well you seem like an idiot

Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
65444 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 7:08 pm to
quote:

The culture of feeling the need to carry a gun with you everywhere needs to change. We were supposed to evolve and leave the wild wild west in the past.



This picture represents your logic perfectly..




Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40013 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 7:12 pm to
So was Pierre Thomas in Smith's car or no??
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
37950 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 7:12 pm to
quote:

Well you seem like an idiot


Are you trained in these scenarios? I guess I'm the idiot that is permitted by the state to carry a concealed firearm and do so damn near everywhere I go. I cannot shoot someone for telling me they have a gun, nor can I shoot someone for raising their shirt to show me they have one in their waist band. I can lawfully shoot someone if they are pointing a gun at me, or committing a violent felony (bank robbery, rape, mass shooting, etc), but saying one has a gun is not grounds for any defense, anywhere.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
31989 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 7:15 pm to
I can promise you this as it has happened to me, if Smith rear ended him and ran off, and he was on the phone with the operator chasing Smith, they would have told him to take the license plate down and stop pursuing. It's happened to me in the east and I tried to follow the car that hit me and the operator told me repeatedly to not pursue the car for my safety and the other car's.
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7933 posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 7:18 pm to
quote:

He's fricked for following Smith after he was rear-ended. Nothing else matters after that, if I'm on the jury. Hayes cannot claim self-defense or SYG when he follows.


Well you seem like an idiot


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