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Ranking worst quarterback contracts in NFL today

Posted on 10/14/24 at 12:44 pm
Posted by brewdrees
Member since Aug 2018
5567 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 12:44 pm
4. Derek Carr, Saints
Fully guaranteed: $60M
2024 cap hit: $12.6M
2025 cap hit: $51.4M
First year can be cut for cap savings: After 2024

That fully guaranteed total is very reasonable. And the Saints could technically save money if Carr is off the roster before the 2025 season, yet the savings would minuscule -- only $1.3 million with a corresponding $50.1 million dead cap hit. In short, absent juggling the financial books, which isn't unfamiliar to the Saints front office, Carr probably stays on the roster at least another year. Before 2026, if the contract stays intact as is, Carr's release would save New Orleans $28.6 million and he'd net the club $32.7 million.

And that $51.4 million cap hit isn't chump change. There are already three void years on Carr's deal, so there's minimal wiggle room for the club known for its propensity to kick the can down the road. Technically, New Orleans could restructure, yet it would just add more dead cap long after Carr is either on another roster or retired. Not exactly sound accounting practices.

Now, there's an argument to be made that not too long ago Carr was playing football that justified his current deal. Yet, given what we know now about the Panthers and Cowboys' defenses, those Week 1 and Week 2 shred sessions from Carr aren't as impressive as originally thought. He'll be 34 next March. At this stage, we know what type of quarterback Carr is. His deal isn't dreadful because of the short-term-ish exit possibility. But it's not anywhere close to a bargain.
Posted by BlacknGold
He Hate Me
Member since Mar 2009
12525 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 12:52 pm to
complaining about QB contracts in the NFL is dumb. look around the league. it's the nature of the position unless you have a rookie.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
8588 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 1:00 pm to
If it was just Carr then it wouldn’t be a big deal. We’re running out of road to kick that can due to Loomis flooding the highway with dead money. As currently constructed, we’re going to be $97M+ over the cap going into next year.

We can’t keep restructuring contracts like loomis has been doing for much longer. The chickens are going to be coming home to roost
This post was edited on 10/14/24 at 1:06 pm
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12617 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 1:00 pm to
Is this your rank or what? No citation listed
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
20733 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 1:23 pm to
Its nowhere near as bad as:

Lamar
Deshaun
Dak
Tua
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74480 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 1:43 pm to
Lamar - 76% win - 2 MVPs
Dak - 63% win
Tua - 62% win

Carr - 45% win


Take your meds
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
80906 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 1:46 pm to
Ehh Tua could be there cause of mushhead potential. But having Lamar there is more proof he's a moron.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12617 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 1:52 pm to
I would think it would be TBD. Most of the wins were racked up while on their rookie contracts, right?
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32407 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 2:09 pm to
Carr isn't #4.

I can look at it right now and give you a top 4 without him.

Dak @ 60mil, #1 overall paid player, and continuing to show you every other year he plays a hard schedule and falls flat on his arse.

Lawrence @ 55mil, #2 overall paid player, despite doing EVERYTHING the could to support him. Drafting a #1 WR, paying for 2 other #2 guys, giving him a good RB and drafting another option. Investing into the OL. He continues to be average.

Watson @ 46mil, #11 overall paid player. Look at the entire team and you can easily say how fricking putrid he is.

Jones @40mil, #15 overall paid player. How they paid him is BONKERS to me.

Thats not even touching on Tua's concussion issues and the amount of guaranteed. Jalen Hurts an that up and down the past 2 years (while costing 14mil more than Carr). Matthew Stafford and his atrocious play this year. Aaron Rodgers and that mess up in NY
This post was edited on 10/14/24 at 2:10 pm
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74480 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 3:07 pm to
Carr has never been over .500 for his career and will retire with a losing career record. Just hard to fathom grouping him in with career winners
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
34918 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

We can’t keep restructuring contracts like loomis has been doing for much longer. The chickens are going to be coming home Allen.
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They are actually running out of contracts to restructure.

Need another good draft next yr to Even have a chance in hell of getting out from underneath the dead money
Posted by infantry1026
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
8450 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

Carr has never been over .500 for his career and will retire with a losing career record. Just hard to fathom grouping him in with career winners



So I guess Archie was a really shitty QB?
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
10224 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 4:58 pm to
quote:

Is this your rank or what? No citation listed


Since there is a 4. I would say that he got this from one of those edgy online articles that is written by a neckbeard.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74480 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 5:24 pm to
I never said Carr was shitty

Do you make excuses for all losing QBs or just Saints?
Posted by infantry1026
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
8450 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

I never said Carr was shitty

Do you make excuses for all losing QBs or just Saints?


You and High Life use his record as evidence to insinuate that he is terrible. I look at the whole situation. He is a solid-good QB. He is not the fricking problem.

And using W/L records to judge a QB is short sighted and stupid
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
3827 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 5:49 pm to
Justifying stupidity with more stupidity? And you’re using hindsight in most your examples. Stafford and Rodgers are hall of famers, not comparable. The difference is we paid for a guy that everyone already knew was bad. He just got fired by the raiders and we pay top dollar for a washed bum. If we took a chance on a young guy like Trevor Lawerence no one would give a shite. Yea Dallas, Cleveland and New York are about as dumb as we are. I guess we’re supposed to shut up and be happy about that?
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
3827 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 5:52 pm to
quote:

So I guess Archie was a really shitty QB?


Different game. That was damn near 50 years ago bud
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74480 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 5:54 pm to
He’s went 12-3 and got MVP votes before, and won 10 games another time. You think he’s just been on two good teams his whole career?

He played one of the worst schedules based on W/L in NFL history last season and couldn’t make the playoff

He will carry the largest or one of the largest (depends on year) caps hits on this team during his tenure. If he cannot elevate your team he is a large part of problem. I don’t fault him for his contract

quote:

And using W/L records to judge a QB is short sighted and stupid



Buddy you were citing QBR in another thread. We can get into the meat and potatoes if ya got time
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
6609 posts
Posted on 10/14/24 at 5:58 pm to
quote:

The chickens are going to be coming home to roost


They already have, and it’s been the case for years. Cam Jordan, Peat, and Ram were disasters that have yielded today’s bottom 5 roster.

And to think Loomis was this close (and still may) to adding Davonte Adams and another huge contract on a declining player.

He’ll probably give Kamara a top 5 rb extension as well.

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