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re: Question on the Williams interception

Posted on 9/17/18 at 12:44 pm to
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22486 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

Judge much?



Yes I do. See how angry you got right there over the littlest thing? That's something a dumb person would do.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166497 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 12:47 pm to
Hester. there's no need to ridicule a poster. this is a safe thread.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22486 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

there's no need to ridicule a poster.


How else will he learn? These are the mean streets of TD. Take your ball to SaintsReport if your soft.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22486 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

unfortunately he didn't get enough of a pull on this one.



Thats actually not that bad of defense on the TD by Crawley. 95% of the time deep balls are defended by the Safety and the CB defends under throws. We had no safety help and Crawley's coverage ensured that only a perfect throw in a 2 yard window would beat him. Unfortunately for us.....
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
4351 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 12:59 pm to
I don't even blame Crawley for that one. That's on Allen putting Crawley one on one with by far the fastest guy on the Browns.

Just a very odd play call on 4th down.

It's an extremely disturbing trend that since Allen returned in 2015 we CONSTANTLY give up points on the last couple of drives.
Posted by GMoney2600
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
14126 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 1:18 pm to
As bad as Crawley has been in coverage...he seems to have gotten better in run support.

I still think Crawley is our best option going forward. I just wish he would start playing more like he did last year. He hasn't lost any speed...that's for sure.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
11965 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

One of the perks of sitting in the terrace is on deep balls like that.

Crawley was running stride for stride with callaway and started to drift towards the middle of the field (I assume tyrod was staring down the WR in the middle). By the time he had gotten back to callaway it was too late. It was a really good throw by tyrod also, because crawley closed on it pretty good for being out of position.
Crawley was actually flat footed waiting for the WR to come to him. He started his run way too late and that is why Calloway blew by him. It was terrible coverage.
Posted by ken757
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2010
255 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:09 pm to
I got angry because you made an absolutely absurd statement.

If you read the whole thread you will see that I admitted maybe the question was not well thought out; again, I was hung up on the picture (forgive me for not looking at the video) of what I considered to be possibly a missed call. On further reflection I admit I was wrong and did not consider all the possibilities. mea culpa.

If that makes me dumb, so be it. One man's opinion.

Speaking of dumb, and yes, I really am going to go there:

There is a difference between your and you're.

One is a possessive pronoun, the other is a contraction for you are. And English wasn't even my best subject.

But you're (get it) the smart guy, so figure it out.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22486 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

Speaking of dumb, and yes, I really am going to go there:

There is a difference between your and you're.

One is a possessive pronoun, the other is a contraction for you are. And English wasn't even my best subject.

But you're (get it) the smart guy, so figure it out.



Well that response proves 2 things.
1) I made a typo on the internet.
2) You absolutely suck.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30123 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 4:23 pm to
quote:

The question is: was this a missed interference call on Crawley or, because of the interception, the interference issue is a non factor; something like a pass that is uncatchable?


no, an interception does NOT negate PI, and you are right, it was clearly PI, the ref just blew the call or didnt see it, giving the saints a huge break there.
Posted by ken757
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2010
255 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 4:33 pm to
Who's angry now?
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22486 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

it was clearly PI,


Btw, it wasnt. KC tackled the receiver after the interception was made.
Posted by ken757
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2010
255 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 5:17 pm to
Thank you, Keakar. That answers my question.

According to Hester, KC tackled the receiver after the interception. Looking at the picture, sorry I did not see the video, KC had his back to the ball at the exact time of the interception by Williams and had no idea where the ball was or if Williams made the interception. I have my doubts of the veracity of the Hester statement.

However, if that is the case, KC got away with a PI and a holding penalty.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22486 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 6:08 pm to
The replay is readily available
Posted by ken757
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2010
255 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 8:14 pm to
OK, I'll take the high road here. I looked at the replay video and was unable to make out exactly the time sequence on the play. I looked at three different versions of the play, they were all from the same angle. I contend the still photo shows clearly that KC had the receiver by the arm, was not looking anywhere near the incoming ball (his back was to the ball and he was looking at the receiver, not the ball), and the ball had not arrived yet. I would call that PI. Just my opinion.

I got an answer to my question, an interception does not negate a PI call. That's all I wanted to know.

Peace
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22486 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 8:46 pm to
quote:

I contend the still photo shows clearly that KC had the receiver by the arm,


No one is arguing he didnt. Thats not the issue. It just happened after Marcus intercepted it. Which is legal.
Posted by bonethug0180
Avondale
Member since Jul 2018
4351 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 8:53 pm to
Yeah the split second it touched Williams hands (not when he gains possession) Crawley can literally tackle the receiver (in a legal way, so no block in the back, leading with the head, etc.).
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30667 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

Well that response proves 2 things.
1) I made a typo on the internet.
2) You absolutely suck.



Having read the exchange I have come to the conclusion that one of you two is a pretentious douchebag with little understanding of intellect and logic and one of you is named Ken.

This post was edited on 9/18/18 at 3:13 pm
Posted by ken757
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2010
255 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 9:22 pm to
Oh, boy! You have kicked the hornets' nest. I thought this thread was dead. It was on page two. I only opened it because I thought he made another reply.

I predict you will hear from Mr. Hester. He will not let it go, unless he just doesn't see it. I also suspect that he is the one who gave you the down vote. I gave you the up vote, btw. Thank you, for your support.

I have made my peace with him, so I won't go there.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166497 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 9:26 pm to
Damn. I work for the CIA and know which one is which
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