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re: Pierre Thomas: 4 carries, 1 yard
Posted on 10/1/13 at 11:35 am to Chad504boy
Posted on 10/1/13 at 11:35 am to Chad504boy
that gif makes more sense than this thread, imo
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Posted on 10/1/13 at 11:35 am to F machine
I want one thing to be made clear: I think PT is a better RB than Ingram.
I NEVER said Ingram was better or even very good.
What the last two weeks have shown is that when Pierre Thomas has had to run in situataions where Mark Ingram would normally get the football, Pierre Thomas has suddenly turned into...well...Mark Ingram. And those of you who have an irrational hatred for Ingram are making pathetic excuses for why Pierre Thomas is suddenly averaging less than 2 yards a carry. Like somehow the offensive line was blowing mack truck lines for Ingram on 3rd/4th and inches and now they are the worst line in NFL history two weeks later.
My "multiple" posts about this are in reaction to how some of you people blame Ingram for everything but place blame elsewhere when PT can't run either.
Just don't put words into my mouth.
I NEVER said Ingram was better or even very good.
What the last two weeks have shown is that when Pierre Thomas has had to run in situataions where Mark Ingram would normally get the football, Pierre Thomas has suddenly turned into...well...Mark Ingram. And those of you who have an irrational hatred for Ingram are making pathetic excuses for why Pierre Thomas is suddenly averaging less than 2 yards a carry. Like somehow the offensive line was blowing mack truck lines for Ingram on 3rd/4th and inches and now they are the worst line in NFL history two weeks later.
My "multiple" posts about this are in reaction to how some of you people blame Ingram for everything but place blame elsewhere when PT can't run either.
Just don't put words into my mouth.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 11:36 am to LNCHBOX
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Not arguing that. My point was that you make it sound like Thomas drags pile 6 yards every play
Of course not. But he does it enough that we know he is a lot better than Ingram.
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Does it matter? He still gets almost as many yards on each run
As I said, a yard in the NFL is a lot. That's why Pierre is good and Ingram is not, among other reasons.
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Ingram never does anything.
Never does anything? I didn't say that. He sure doesn't do much though. He just isn't good. As others have said countless times on it, he isn't quick, he doesn't hit holes like he should, he falls after contact is initiated. I just don't get why you can't see that. He's not the worst back ever, but that doesn't make him good.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 11:36 am to lsutigers1992
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I want one thing to be made clear: I think PT is a better RB than Ingram.
I NEVER said Ingram was better or even very good.
What the last two weeks have shown is that when Pierre Thomas has had to run in situataions where Mark Ingram would normally get the football, Pierre Thomas has suddenly turned into...well...Mark Ingram. And those of you who have an irrational hatred for Ingram are making pathetic excuses for why Pierre Thomas is suddenly averaging less than 2 yards a carry. Like somehow the offensive line was blowing mack truck lines for Ingram on 3rd/4th and inches and now they are the worst line in NFL history two weeks later.
My "multiple" posts about this are in reaction to how some of you people blame Ingram for everything but place blame elsewhere when PT can't run either.
Just don't put words into my mouth.
All of this is accurate, but they'll be damned to admit it.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 11:38 am to lsutigers1992
quote:PT averaged 4 YPC on 3rd and less than 6 last year. Mi averaged 1.8
What the last two weeks have shown is that when Pierre Thomas has had to run in situataions where Mark Ingram would normally get the football, Pierre Thomas has suddenly turned into...well...Mark Ingram.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 11:38 am to LNCHBOX
quote:PT averaged 4 YPC on 3rd and less than 6 last year. Mi averaged 1.8.
All of this is accurate, but they'll be damned to admit it.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 11:38 am to F machine
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Of course not. But he does it enough that we know he is a lot better than Ingram.
Never said he wasn't better.
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As I said, a yard in the NFL is a lot. That's why Pierre is good and Ingram is not, among other reasons.
People were saying Trent Richardson is pretty good with about the same average as Ingram. So how does that work?
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Never does anything? I didn't say that. He sure doesn't do much though. He just isn't good. As others have said countless times on it, he isn't quick, he doesn't hit holes like he should, he falls after contact is initiated. I just don't get why you can't see that. He's not the worst back ever, but that doesn't make him good.
I feel like the point of me calling out your exaggeration has completely gone over your head.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 11:39 am to OldSouth
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PT averaged 4 YPC on 3rd and less than 6 last year. Mi averaged 1.8.
Congrats on finding the split stats on ESPN. Please keep repeating that one stat.
ETA: And good job on using a stat from last year to talk about PT's now dismal YPA this year.
This post was edited on 10/1/13 at 11:40 am
Posted on 10/1/13 at 11:39 am to lsutigers1992
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What the last two weeks have shown is that when Pierre Thomas has had to run in situataions where Mark Ingram would normally get the football, Pierre Thomas has suddenly turned into...well...Mark Ingram.
For 2 games. Pierre Thomas has never ran in the situations Ingram was put in? How about before Ingram got here? Pierre never ran out of an I? shite, he has even after Ingram has been here. I think you can give Pierre a little benefit of the doubt before you say he turned into Mark Ingram in certain situations.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 11:41 am to LNCHBOX
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I feel like the point of me calling out your exaggeration has completely gone over your head.
It was exaggerating to say Pierre hits the hole and runs hard, sometimes dragging the pile while in that situation Ingram almost always falls down? I don't think that's exaggerating.
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People were saying Trent Richardson is pretty good with about the same average as Ingram. So how does that work?
Don't ask me. I'm not claiming Richardson is that good.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 11:41 am to F machine
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Pierre Thomas has never ran in the situations Ingram was put in?
Not with this shitty line.
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How about before Ingram got here? Pierre never ran out of an I?
Not with this shitty line.
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shite, he has even after Ingram has been here.
With this shitty line, he hasn't looked like himself in Ingram's role. Stats back that up.
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. I think you can give Pierre a little benefit of the doubt before you say he turned into Mark Ingram in certain situations.
Then explain his stats the last two games other than saying this offensive line is fricking hot garbage in run blocking.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 11:42 am to lsutigers1992
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What the last two weeks have shown is that when Pierre Thomas has had to run in situataions where Mark Ingram would normally get the football, Pierre Thomas has suddenly turned into...well...Mark Ingram
you realize he's done this before when Ingram has been injured and been completely fine.
Let's also forget what he brings to the screen game. We've ran the ball well before, it is just that Ingram never has. This year our oline is obviously subpar at the moment
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With this shitty line, he hasn't looked like himself in Ingram's role. Stats back that up.
so you mean just this year? Because the stats don't back that up any other year
This post was edited on 10/1/13 at 11:43 am
Posted on 10/1/13 at 11:43 am to F machine
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It was exaggerating to say Pierre hits the hole and runs hard, sometimes dragging the pile while in that situation Ingram almost always falls down? I don't think that's exaggerating.
Yes, when they are less than 1 yard apart on a run. That is exaggerating. If Ingram "almost always" falls down immediately, where is he getting his yards?
Posted on 10/1/13 at 11:43 am to TigerBait1127
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you realize he's done this before when Ingram has been injured and been completely fine.
Not with this shitty line. How do you people not get that this line is terrible?
This post was edited on 10/1/13 at 11:44 am
Posted on 10/1/13 at 11:43 am to LNCHBOX
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you make it sound like Thomas drags pile 6 yards every play, and Ingram never does anything.
This is no exaggeration. Did you just start watching the saints when Ingram was drafted?
Posted on 10/1/13 at 11:44 am to LNCHBOX
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Then explain his stats the last two games other than saying this offensive line is fricking hot garbage in run blocking.
It's 2 games. I'd like to give it more time before I declare or explain anything.
But part of the things I'm saying don't just pertain to the 4 games this season. Go back to the past few seasons. They both ran behind the same lines, and I've seen Ingram struggle. Then Pierre gets put in and he does well. I haven't seen the reverse of that.
And like I said, as far as this season goes, it's 2 games. Admittedly the line is shite, and I'm sure that doesn't help any rb. How do you explain the drop off in prior seasons though?
Posted on 10/1/13 at 11:44 am to whodatfan
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This is no exaggeration. Did you just start watching the saints when Ingram was drafted?
It is the definition of exaggeration.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 11:45 am to LNCHBOX
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Not with this shitty line. How do you people not get that this line is terrible?
Why all of a sudden are we only talking about this year? In previous responses we were talking about the past few seasons also. Pierre has struggled the past few games. Ingram has struggled the past few years.
Posted on 10/1/13 at 11:46 am to F machine
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It's 2 games. I'd like to give it more time before I declare or explain anything.
Ingrams average was cut in half this year. Now that PT has to play in that role, his average is nose diving. You don't think there is a common denominator?
Posted on 10/1/13 at 11:48 am to F machine
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Why all of a sudden are we only talking about this year?
Because this is the first time the o line has been absolute dog shite. And all our backs are struggling, with the exception of KR in garbage time. It's the only time that you can compare, because we've seen PT take Ingram's carries and seen the result. The result shows that it isn't all on Ingram.
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