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re: Pierre Thomas: 4 carries, 1 yard

Posted on 10/1/13 at 9:27 am to
Posted by OldSouth
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Posted on 10/1/13 at 9:27 am to
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Marvin Austin is blowing up this offensive line and he was with the Dolphins for 4 days.

And it's the exact same line Ingram was running behind.
I feel like I'm on crazy pills this morning.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/1/13 at 9:27 am to
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1 carry was for 26 yards up by 34-0 in the 4th quarter.

Leaving him 29 carries for 64 yards. Same game, he had a 31 yard run when they were up 24-0 in the 3rd. 2 meaningless carries that day 57 yards. that like half his yards that year or what.



Does average now mean something new? You get to just remove runs now?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/1/13 at 9:28 am to
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Does average now mean something new? You get to just remove runs now?



well we are discussing numbers getting padded correct. This is how padding happens. You wanted to talk padding, now you don't.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/1/13 at 9:29 am to
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Take a look at these Ingam stats then

2012
Final Margin 0-7pts 69 carries 218 yds 3.2 ypc
Final Margin 8-14pts 38 carries 108 yds 2.8 ypc
Final Margin 15+ 49 carries 276 yds 5.6 ypc

2011
Final Margin 0-7pts 35 carries 103 yds 2.9ypc
Final Margin 8-14pts 46 carries 149 yds 3.2 ypc
Final Margin 15+ 41 carries 222 yards 5.4ypc

Seems like he gets plenty of time running against worn out defenses.


With that in mind then, can we agree that the KR hype is way out of line?

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/1/13 at 9:29 am to
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well we are discussing numbers getting padded correct. This is how padding happens. You wanted to talk padding, now you don't.


Breaking off a good run is not the same as only getting yards against tired D's. Do I get to take away everyone else's big runs and then compare? Like I said, you're a joke.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/1/13 at 9:30 am to
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With that in mind then, can we agree that the KR hype is way out of line?



KR hype is only relative due to Ingram's suckage. It's definitely not out of line.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/1/13 at 9:31 am to
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Breaking off a good run is not the same as only getting yards against tired D's.


oh yeah, ingram developed magical running powers up by 30 points in a game.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/1/13 at 9:31 am to
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KR hype is only relative due to Ingram's suckage. It's definitely not out of line.




KR averages 1.4 yards when not in garbage time. Yea, it's out of line.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/1/13 at 9:32 am to
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KR averages 1.4 yards when not in garbage time.


only a boss man could have made positive yardage on those carries.
Posted by lsutigers1992
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Posted on 10/1/13 at 9:33 am to
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well we are discussing numbers getting padded correct. This is how padding happens. You wanted to talk padding, now you don't.


Apples and oranges. The 5.0 per carry in blowouts doesn't mean that all the runs were in garbage time. Maybe he had a 30 yard run in the 2nd quarter that contributed to the blowout.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/1/13 at 9:33 am to
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oh yeah, ingram developed magical running powers up by 30 points in a game.


So no long runs in the first 3 quarters? You really trying to claim that?

He had longs of 16, 23, 31, and 26 respectively for each quarter. Another swing and a miss Chad.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/1/13 at 9:33 am to
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only a boss man could have made positive yardage on those carries.


Posted by EarthwormJim
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Posted on 10/1/13 at 9:35 am to
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With that in mind then, can we agree that the KR hype is way out of line?


The only hype behind Robinson is he looks like a more decisive, quicker, and harder to tackle guy than Ingram.

And just to put a little more perspective on Ingram's 2012 season, there were 5 games where the final margin was 15+.

So 31% of the games last year was blowout, in those games Ingram got right at 31% of his carries for the year, but those carries resulted in 45% of his total yards. So a little under half his yards came in blowouts last year.

Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/1/13 at 9:35 am to
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So no long runs in the first 3 quarters? You really trying to claim that?


Didn't i just fricking tell you he had a 31 yard carry in the 3rd quarter? you are dumb bro.
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He had longs of 16, 23, 31, and 26 respectively for each quarter.


for a year? what the frick is this?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/1/13 at 9:37 am to
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The only hype behind Robinson is he looks like a more decisive, quicker, and harder to tackle guy than Ingram.


Except his stats suck outside of clean up time.

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And just to put a little more perspective on Ingram's 2012 season, there were 5 games where the final margin was 15+.


Do that to KR if you're going to try to go there.
Posted by EarthwormJim
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Posted on 10/1/13 at 9:39 am to
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Except his stats suck outside of clean up time.


Yes, along with all the other runningbacks on the team. That doesn't mean you can't judge and compare the abilities between 2 backs.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/1/13 at 9:39 am to
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Didn't i just fricking tell you he had a 31 yard carry in the 3rd quarter? you are dumb bro.


You said only when we were up 30. How often has that happened outside the end of 3rd/4th quarter?

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for a year? what the frick is this?


Last year he had a long of 16 in the 1st, a long of 23 in the 2nd, a long of 31 in the 3rd, and a long of 26 in the 4th. Do I need to also tell you how to breathe?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/1/13 at 9:40 am to
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Last year he had a long of 16 in the 1st, a long of 23 in the 2nd, a long of 31 in the 3rd, and a long of 26 in the 4th. Do I need to also tell you how to breathe?




So his longest runs were in 2nd half blowouts last year. Thanks for making my points. Gosh Darn you suck at this.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/1/13 at 9:40 am to
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Yes, along with all the other runningbacks on the team. That doesn't mean you can't judge and compare the abilities between 2 backs.


And I can disagree with you based on actual production.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/1/13 at 9:41 am to
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So his longest runs were in 2nd half blowouts last year. Thanks for making my points. Gosh Darn you suck at this.




You said magical running abilities only when we were up big. I proved he has big runs early as well. Nice try dumbass.
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