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re: PFF: What a Sean Payton Trade Could Look Like

Posted on 10/13/22 at 4:32 pm to
Posted by hellsu
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Posted on 10/13/22 at 4:32 pm to
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I still feel like they made that eagles pick with the first knowing they'll recoup in a Payton deal. I dont think there is any way we can move him without at least 1 first.


Nobody is getting him without at least a first. Look at what teams threw at DeShaun Watson and at what risk. Payton is considered a franchise coach because he was able to consistently find a way to win. The vast majority fall short. If Loomis and company don't flinch we should get top dollar for him by the end of or right after the end of this season.
Posted by OvertheDwayneBowe
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 10/13/22 at 5:31 pm to
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Payton is considered a franchise coach because he was able to consistently find a way to win.


7-9 floor with a HOF QB.



But in all seriousness, yes, he could immediately turn the Chargers into a contender. The Broncos possibly as well.
Posted by Parrish
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 10/13/22 at 5:34 pm to
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If Loomis and company don't flinch


I think this is a problem if it's an AFC team and Sean calls the Saints to ask a favor for his new team to not be buried by trading away high drafting picks.
This post was edited on 10/13/22 at 5:35 pm
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 10/13/22 at 5:34 pm to
Good God the bronco offense is complete arse.
Posted by hellsu
Northshore via Westbank
Member since Jan 2009
4126 posts
Posted on 10/13/22 at 7:49 pm to
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I think this is a problem if it's an AFC team and Sean calls the Saints to ask a favor for his new team to not be buried by trading away high drafting picks.


The whole NFL world will be watching. This is business. The last thing they will do is give his new owners a pass or they would be vilified in the press and the public. Everyone, even Payton knows they will be looking for maximum return on him and it's only fair. I personally understand why he left and that's his prerogative but he walked on his team and his contract. The gloves come off.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 10/13/22 at 8:32 pm to
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Dallas is probably doing too well to make a change at HC, much to Jerry Jones's dismay.


Dallas went 12-5 and made a first round exit last year. If they make another early playoff exit this year, I don't think Jones thinks twice about pulling the trigger for Payton.
Posted by Domeskeller
Astrodome
Member since Jun 2020
9577 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 3:43 am to
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7-9 with a HOF QB


Three years in a row at one point (2014-16). Another 7-9 (‘07) and 8-8 (‘08) thrown in there, too.

Payton and McCarthy’a records are eerily similar, even considering the postseason. McCarthy just sounds like a dumbass and that’s why he gets clowned a lot. But their records aren’t that different. Both are bad at late-game management and won only one Super Bowl with a Hall of Fame QB while blowing several playoff games they should have won.

Payton went 9-8 last year, but went 4-7 with backup QBs, including 5 losses in a row, after a 5-2 start with Winston. McCarthy is 4-1 so far this year with a backup QB winning four starts in a row.
This post was edited on 10/14/22 at 3:57 am
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
25694 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 6:42 am to
Why not the bears? Does Sean have enough hubris to think he can fix their QB issues? Their front office is littered with former NOLA execs, so there is familiarity.

That pick could be juicy.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 10/14/22 at 8:18 am to
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The other teams mentioned are the traditional options: Chargers, Broncos, and Cowboys


Cooper Rush is saving McCarthy's job.

Wilson appears to be washed up.

My pick will be Arizona. If they don't right the ship, I fully expect the Cardinals to shitcan Kingsbury and take a shot at Payton. Payton gets his mini-Taysom who can pass.

Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73869 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 9:07 am to
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Payton went 9-8 last year, but went 4-7 with backup QBs, including 5 losses in a row, after a 5-2 start with Winston. McCarthy is 4-1 so far this year with a backup QB winning four starts in a row


Payton went 12-2 with QB2s Teddy and Taysom

Failed attempt at painting that narrative bubba
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/14/22 at 9:10 am to
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Payton went 12-2 with QB2s Teddy and Taysom


The frick is that supposed to insinuate.
Posted by LSUrme
JP
Member since Oct 2005
5407 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 9:40 am to
Only 2 picks in a single draft? For a SB and consistent playoff coach?
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
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Member since Dec 2009
38261 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 2:46 pm to
Given the recent trade values for stars, I’m pretty stunned a single 1st rounder would be considered a worthy return.
Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
12533 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 2:58 pm to
Getting rid of a first round pick will help his new team if he was planning to pick a constantly injured, non-Power 5 DE with a second round grade.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73869 posts
Posted on 10/15/22 at 4:53 pm to

Collect assets to go after CSP

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The Carolina Panthers are listening to other teams about a potential trade for star running back Christian McCaffrey, although a deal might not be easy to complete, league sources tell ESPN.

Carolina also appears unwilling to trade defensive stalwarts Derrick Brown and Brian Burns, despite interest that they have generated around the league. One player the Panthers are open to moving, according to sources, is wide receiver Robbie Anderson.
Posted by goatmilker
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 10/15/22 at 4:57 pm to
McCaffery and Anderson?


Posted by Wardniner01
Member since Dec 2020
2537 posts
Posted on 10/15/22 at 9:23 pm to
My guess what br a good clean view of Loomis s arse after using a my shiny hiney bleaching product
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