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PFF ranks the NFL FOs. Says Loomis is 3rd Tier out of 3.

Posted on 12/20/23 at 10:50 am
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 10:50 am
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No surprise that nobody in the industry thinks highly of the Saints dysfunctional FO structure.
Posted by JS87
Member since Aug 2010
17754 posts
Posted on 12/20/23 at 11:01 am to
I wished we had a Howie Roseman.

Always ahead of every other team’s FO.

Every move, trade, and draft pick is calculated. In this last draft, the Eagles were able to pillage and plunder. Taking Jalen Carter was brilliant.

The BIG one is not giving out god awful contracts and extending players past their welcome.

Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 11:07 am to
"But let's tank this season even though we're in first place so that Loomis gets to make the pick at 13 instead of 21" - Most of Saints Talk
Posted by saints5021
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 11:27 am to
They have Jerry Jones as Tier 1 and he is probably the worst GM in all of sports.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 11:33 am to
Let's see how that hurts' contract turns out for him. Big money for Mahomes is already starting to bite the chiefs, and Mahomes is much better
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 11:37 am to
“Dysfunctional” GTFO

they just don’t like that we manipulate the cap (he admits it in the first paragraph) and doesn’t like that we trade up often
This post was edited on 12/20/23 at 11:37 am
Posted by htran90
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 11:56 am to
The cap manipulation is tier 2 at worst.

The issue is the veterans are aging and guys we thought were cornerstone are becoming old faster.

Who thought ram was gonna be this bad? Lattimore being this injury prone?

The issue is still this groups wanting to double down on stupid. It's when they are the cockiest
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 12:11 pm to
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Lattimore being this injury prone?



I get that he misses a handful of games each year, but he always seems to come back on time and always seems to bring it for big games.

Pray he goes this week - could really use him against Rams' excellent WR and TR corps
This post was edited on 12/20/23 at 12:12 pm
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 12:12 pm to
Having a lacerated kidney counts as injury prone now
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 12:23 pm to
Loomis was once perceived as top tier. Now he is looked upon as a surrogate number crunching owner of the Saints well past his prime.

Needs to move higher up in the organization with no real input.
This post was edited on 12/20/23 at 2:09 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 12:24 pm to
If chadboy & goatmilker say he is the best, then goddamnit he’s the best 1!!
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 1:40 pm to
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They have Jerry Jones as Tier 1 and he is probably the worst GM in all of sports.




just goes to show that loomis is really more around 30 not 3
Posted by Midget Death Squad
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

"But let's tank this season even though we're in first place so that Loomis gets to make the pick at 13 instead of 21" - Most of Saints Talk





If this is what you think we have been saying then you have not been paying attention. You live in your own weird world, mate
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

But let's tank this season even though we're in first place so that Loomis gets to make the pick at 13 instead of 21" - Most of Saints Talk


The tanking for me is to get rid of Allen, not bc about the draft. They never pick the player I want anyway, and the person they do pick is often underwhelming.
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 4:04 pm to
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they just don’t like that we manipulate the cap (he admits it in the first paragraph) and doesn’t like that we trade up often


Because it’s fricking stupid given our current staff, qb, aging roster, etc. If we were in Bree’s’ late prime with Payton knock yourself out
This post was edited on 12/20/23 at 4:06 pm
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 4:15 pm to
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The tanking for me is to get rid of Allen


But they aren't going to get rid of him. We all know this, yet so many of you delude yourself into thinking otherwise.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 12/20/23 at 4:16 pm to
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If this is what you think we have been saying then you have not been paying attention. You live in your own weird world, mate



Okay, the other thing is that you want Allen fired. Guess what?

That's not happening.

Our situation is what it is, our owner is super conservative, and this incarnation of the Saints will more or less be around for (at least) another full season. I guarantee it. Even if we lose out, this staff and team and front office WILL BE BACK. Deep down you know this is a fact.

My advice has been to stop bitching, stop torturing yourselves with what you'd do if you had a say in the matter and just root for the Saints to make the playoffs.

What say we all enjoy a little run over the holidays and into the new year?
This post was edited on 12/20/23 at 8:28 pm
Posted by saintslsupels
Member since Jul 2014
2492 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 8:13 am to
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Let's see how that hurts' contract turns out for him. Big money for Mahomes is already starting to bite the chiefs, and Mahomes is much better

Yes clearly the problem with the chiefs is there 2 time super willing and future hall of fame quarterback.

If they were smart they’d sign Andy Dalton and Winston to cheap contracts like we did.
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
24064 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 9:08 am to
I think it's pretty well know that Loomis is not at all a football guy but a numbers guy. Ireland should probably be the GM at this point.
Posted by CRW
Destrahan
Member since Aug 2016
1109 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 12:18 pm to
Whio`s kidding who. Belichick and Jerry jones top tier.
BB has run NE into the ground with his inability to draft
playoff caliber players.JJ gave his son more responsibilty
the last number of years.Neither are as good as Mickey and
I`m not saying he`s doing a good job.
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