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Posted on 4/27/25 at 8:09 am to Townedrunkard
If the saints didn't take shough when they did, Cleveland takes him in the 3rd before the saints pick assuming he doesn't go before that. Only way the saints coulda picked someone else 40th and still got shough was trade up.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 8:12 am to High Life
C is about right. There were better CBs and TEs that could have been chosen.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 8:19 am to gsmith5651
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Broughton seems too high, there was still value around. Wish we got a Savion here
If only there was someone in the Saints organization with deep knowledge about defensive line play and both of these players….
Posted on 4/27/25 at 8:20 am to msstate7
Exactly. The Browns with all their draft capital could move anywhere they wished throughout the draft. And they were going to draft a qb.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 8:24 am to Snipe
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they didn’t reach for anyone
they ABSLOLUTELY reached for Shough... 1000%
Broughton was a reach, but it wasn't as bad as Shough...
Posted on 4/27/25 at 8:28 am to Townedrunkard
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Shough and Broughton were pretty big reaches in my opinion.
Yup, we could’ve got both a round later.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 8:29 am to Snipe
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fact that they didn’t reach for anyone in the draft
None of us knows. All people do is listen to what other analysts say, read people's mock drafts, and base everything on that. Those people don't even know who's going to pan out. If we reach and that player turns into a stud, then it's irrelevant. There's no way of knowing if the QB and D-lineman we drafted would have been there with our next picks.
In essence, I agree with you.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 8:33 am to NewOrleansBlend
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If only there was someone in the Saints organization with deep knowledge about defensive line play and both of these players….
Consensus said he was a 4th- 5th rd pick. I would hope we didn’t reach for this guy just because his college coach said to. But such short sighted nepotism would not surprise me with this team.
Any of the 3 edges or 3 CB that went off within the 10 picks following ours would’ve been nice
Posted on 4/27/25 at 8:37 am to Mushroom1968
how can it be better than a C+?
we have one starter and one hopeful QB starter.
We dropped the ball in the second round, no way someone was taking QB early 2nd. There was not a team behind us taking a QB. You cant tell me we couldn't trade back and get another 3 or take a top player like Sanders, Morrison,Taylor, Collins, Arroyo, Scrouton etc and still get TS trading back up with a 3 or 4.
we have one starter and one hopeful QB starter.
We dropped the ball in the second round, no way someone was taking QB early 2nd. There was not a team behind us taking a QB. You cant tell me we couldn't trade back and get another 3 or take a top player like Sanders, Morrison,Taylor, Collins, Arroyo, Scrouton etc and still get TS trading back up with a 3 or 4.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 8:43 am to FMtTXtiger
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how can it be better than a C+?
Well we won’t know for a couple seasons. I mean, that’s just the truth.
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We dropped the ball in the second round, no way someone was taking QB early 2nd. There was not a team behind us taking a QB. You cant tell me we couldn't trade back
The saints stated multiple times they tried trading up and back and it didn’t work. If a team says no or if they offer a shitty package, what is it you expect the saints to do? Just take it because you’re 100% certain nobody is going to take a QB?
Posted on 4/27/25 at 8:49 am to msstate7
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Cleveland takes him in the 3rd before the saints pick assuming he doesn't go before that
if they were so high on Shough, they would have taken him with either of the 2nd round picks they had, ahead of the Saints, knowing the Saints wanted to get a QB... yet they didn't...
but even with all of that, we still should have pivoted once Dart was gone... just accept the fact that none of the remaining QB, after Dart, offered much more than what Rattler gives you, and just ride it out with him, let the chips fall where they may next season, then address QB next draft....
we panicked, or caved, or whatever you wanna call it... at the end of the day, we had an opportunity to use that pick to solidify another area of the team this year, and we squandered it on a QB that will be 26 at the beginning of his rookie season, who's not achieved anything of worth in 6 years in college, and is going to be facing better competition than he ever has while we hope he surpasses his previous output against that increased competition...
Posted on 4/27/25 at 8:54 am to GynoSandberg
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Consensus said he was a 4th- 5th rd pick. I would hope we didn’t reach for this guy just because his college coach said to. But such short sighted nepotism would not surprise me with this team. Any of the 3 edges or 3 CB that went off within the 10 picks following ours would’ve been nice
I was specifically comparing him to Saivion Jones, who the previous poster preferred. Jones and Broughton are both 3-4 DE. I’m not going to argue about whether Broughton was the best pick for the Saints at that spot because that is frankly pure conjecture, but I think you can make a pretty good argument that Bo Davis is a great person to choose who projects best onto this team when choosing between two of his former players.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 8:55 am to FMtTXtiger
Also 75% of this board was sure Dart would fall to the 2nd round and many stated 40 would be too high. Yet he went in the 1st round. None of us know shite : All we can do is hope our picks pan out.
All we can do is hope our picks pan out.Posted on 4/27/25 at 8:57 am to chRxis
You want us to accept the fact you know more about qbs than CKM?
Hahahahahahahaha
Hahahahahahahaha
Posted on 4/27/25 at 9:00 am to Weekend Warrior79
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Is this the same rankings and projections that gave the team an F for drafting Banks even though the small write up about him seems to believe he will be an immediate impact player
No that was Bleacher report. Not even close to the same thing.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 9:07 am to jamal
True, nobody “knows” how any of these guys will work out…
Posted on 4/27/25 at 9:08 am to goatmilker
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you know more about qbs than CKM?
no, nor am I saying I do...
but what I do know is that we are nowhere close to being contenders next season... let's be real... we will be picking top 10 again next year... and we know next year's QB class is much, much better than this year's...
outside of Ward and Dart, no other QB in this class, including Sanders, offers much more than what we already have in Rattler... so if we can't bring in a difference maker this year, which we couldn't once Dart was off the board, why even go in that direction this year? we should have focused on the big picture, get better in other areas (so we don't have force anything or reach next year), and then address QB when there are better options next year...
but it's this organization's failure to accept reality and their desperate clinging to the "win now" approach that has us making unsound decisions like this... it's not a coincidence we have one of the worst rated rosters in the NFL
Posted on 4/27/25 at 9:13 am to goatmilker
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And they were going to draft a qb.
Hell, they grabbed two. That's going to be an interesting QB room come training camp.
Posted on 4/27/25 at 9:17 am to Chrome
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There’s a reason underrated GM Mickey Loomis has been on the job for a quarter century. Good chance he just about perfectly married value to need with his first three selections, who might all be starters in 2025: First-round OT Kelvin Banks Jr., second-round QB Tyler Shough and third-round DL Vernon Broughton. Third-round S Jonas Sanker and fourth-round LB Danny Stutsman could find themselves in prominent roles – and making an impact – soon enough.
Best draft in the division
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