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re: Olave drop on 2nd to last drive

Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:12 pm to
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:12 pm to
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Who is the only offensive player we’ve seen Carr go after? It’s Olave.

Probably just a coincidence though right?


Exactly. Moreau had one of the worst drops you will see (given the situation). I didn’t see Carr blow up on him.

Olave’s effort has been noticeably poor for several games now. Carr’s reactions have gotten worse for the past 2 games.

I’m sure that’s just a coincidence as well.
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:13 pm to
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To me I’m going to be real- there was probably several times a guy like Ted Ginn or others in the past on this team did what Olave is doing.




Imagine comparing Ted fricking Ginn to the supposed #1 receiver for this team.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:14 pm to
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Again difference is Olave is being hung out to dry here.

He would be getting hung out to dry if he wasn't actually halfassing.
quote:

Carr needs to be better

yes
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and work with Olave and defend him in public.


Work with Olave on his shitty effort?
Posted by burke985
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:17 pm to
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Oh so you just want him to try to jump or put his hands out on a badly thrown ball that nobody can catch so we can say oh hes at least trying? How about we talk about why Carr is throwing such shitty passes to begin with? Personally, I think Olave isn’t completely blameless but hes getting a lot of flak for Carr’s shitty play.


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When did that happen with Olave? Majority of the passes are not even near him or behind him on several simple routes.







This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 2:19 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:18 pm to
Olave obviously had an awful game, but a still shot does nothing to show the full picture of how difficult a catch is. Which way was his momentum going? Did he have to completely twist to adjust to the ball placement? It's not as simple as "he had his hands on it he 100% should catch it. "
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:19 pm to
That pass was extremely behind him. Like ridiculously behind. Hes trying to catch a pass thats behind him and he doesn’t so we blame Olave and not Carr. If Jameis threw that same pass- we would all blame Jameis. I have no idea why we give a pass to Carr on a horrible throw and blame Olave.
Posted by burke985
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:20 pm to
That was 1st down and woulda moved the chains and got us out of shitty field position. Look Carr is playing like shite but so is everyone else I can’t hate on one of them more than the other at least it seems like Carr and a handful of guys care ……Olave we saw what he’s about
Posted by burke985
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:21 pm to
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That pass was extremely behind him. Like ridiculously behind. Hes trying to catch a pass thats behind him and he doesn’t so we blame Olave and not Carr. If Jameis threw that same pass- we would all blame Jameis. I have no idea why we give a pass to Carr on a horrible throw and blame Olave.



Hit him in both his hands he should catch it that’s what he gets paid for, every pass isn’t gonna be perfect especially when Carr had a arm around him trying to get that ball to Olave
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:22 pm to
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Did he have to completely twist to adjust to the ball placement?

Do you think Michael Thomas catches that?
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:23 pm to
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all the WR are half assing with little to no effort,


Eh, MT13 and Shaheed seem to be out there hustling.

Olave's body language and effort is terrible.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:23 pm to
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Do you think Michael Thomas catches that?


Maybe He's had some drops as well on less than well thrown balls.

Again, not defending Olave's effort last night. It was shite.
This post was edited on 10/20/23 at 2:25 pm
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:24 pm to
Even Herbie said the ball should have been caught
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:24 pm to
I’d take zombie Ginn over this bum right now
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:25 pm to
I think its everyone. To me not caring is also not being prepared. Shaheed has run wrong routes so did Kamara last night. I just think Olave not trying thing is getting overblown. Whats sad is everything is leaking to the public and to me thats a bad culture in the locker room and it’s Dennis Allens fault- all this garbage should not leave the locker room. If anything Allen should control it in the media and have these internal conversations with his players. None if this happening. DA had completely lost this locker room and it’s embarrassing.
Posted by DBG
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:25 pm to
Keith Poole
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

Again, not defending Olave's effort last night. It was shite.

Not just last night. He was quitting routes on Sunday against the Texans too.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:27 pm to
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Whats sad is everything is leaking to the public and to me thats a bad culture in the locker room and it’s Dennis Allens fault- all this garbage should not leave the locker room.

Its obvious watching him on the field that his effort is shite. Nobody on the team has to spell it out.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:28 pm to
Quinn Early
Posted by GulfCoast LSU Fan
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:29 pm to
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At least Moreau looks like he genuinely cares


If he cares he would've been focused enough to make the catch.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 10/20/23 at 2:31 pm to
Then why is he playing? If his effort is that bad every game as everyone says, why is he playing? Again, seems like DA doesn’t care. Players effort reflect coaches. We can shite on Olave all we want, but if his head coach isn’t saying or doing anything in regards to his effort, who’s really to blame?? Again the culture on this team is absolute shite. I say this because again Olave not showing full effort to me honestly isn’t the biggest problem and is deflecting from the complete lack of accountability and leadership on this team.
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