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re: NOPD logs show no record of 911 call to report hit and run
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:02 pm to bonethug0108
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:02 pm to bonethug0108
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Smith's gun, if it was still locked up, cannot be retrieved without a warrant. If they searched the scene and the vehicle it means they did a shite job or his gun was locked up. So originally they only found one gun at the scene. They later found Smith's after getting a warrant to search his vehicle. Also, there was no 911 call after the supposed original hit and run. The other two calls were likely by Smith's friends reporting his murder (first call), and Hayes reporting an accident (second call) so he could claim he called 911 and stay on the scene. But even Hayes' attorney is saying none of the calls were made from Hayes' first cell phone. And this bullshite of whether Will hit and run is irrelevant. Hayes followed and agressively rammed Smith's vehicle and approached with a gun (concealed or not). Why anyone is defending Hayes is absolutely baffling. All the evidence is pointing to him being the aggressor
Except that Hayes didn't ram him on purpose, if he rammed him on purpose he wouldn't have slammed on his breaks before the impact (the tire marks on the street were from the hummer). Please do a little reading before you show your bias lol.
The hit and run is irrelevant, whatever happened after the second rear ending is the only thing that matters and from the sounds of Fuller on the matter yesterday his tone on the subject was pretty confident. Also I doubt he would drop the process of becoming a judge just to lose an "open and close" case.
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Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:04 pm to Mr. Hangover
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honestly, deep down inside, i want to believe that will smith had no wrong doing in this situation.
I think this can't be said at all anymore.
It probably shouldn't have resulted in his life, but he, at best, made several stupid decisions that snowballed.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:05 pm to Mr. Hangover
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Honestly, I watched the hit and run video over and over, and although I'm pretty sure he bumped into him, it was in no way a 'bad' collision...
It certainly wasn't bad. In fact, I'd suspect there would be minimal if any damage.
However, one important aspect is that Smith's attorney plainly stated that there was no hit and run. That's clearly false. And, it brings into question the validity of his detailed description of the events that unfolded after the initial hit and run.
If the shooting went down like Smith's attorney described, obviously there isn't much to argue about. However, how can you accept his statements when you are able to prove that some of them are clearly false.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:06 pm to Mr. Hangover
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. i will wait until all FACTS are out until i can honestly form my own opinion and feel confident about what i am arguing about
I will do the same in terms of totally absolving Hayes of this crime.
There have been some facts that have came out, though. You have to think, this has gone from a "road rage thug slaying" originally to now, some legal experts thinking Hayes may get totally exonerated. That's a far cry from where we started, all based on facts that have been presented. So i mean we aren't totally in the dark here.
If it is learned that Hayes shot them without any threat, lock him up, execute him, do whatever the hell they want to in order to punish him.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:06 pm to moneyg
quote:Link? That's not what LE and lsupride were saying yesterday.
However, one important aspect is that Smith's attorney plainly stated that there was no hit and run.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:08 pm to Vacherie Saint
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But the 911 call PROVES he wasn't the aggressor!
The 911 call would have given credence to the narrative that he wasn't chasing Smith to cause a confrontation...but rather to get a license plate.
If it didn't happen, it's not something they can use.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:09 pm to Keeble9145
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Except that Hayes didn't ram him on purpose
You don't fricking know that.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:09 pm to Lester Earl
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I will do the same in terms of totally absolving Hayes of this crime.
There have been some facts that have came out, though. You have to think, this has gone from a "road rage thug slaying" originally to now, some legal experts thinking Hayes may get totally exonerated. That's a far cry from where we started, all based on facts that have been presented. So i mean we aren't totally in the dark here.
If it is learned that Hayes shot them without any threat, lock him up, execute him, do whatever the hell they want to in order to punish him.
LE, if Hayes is convicted you're going to disappear from this thread and you know it.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:10 pm to Lester Earl
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If it is learned that Hayes shot them without any threat,
Why does it have to be "without any threat"?
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:11 pm to LNCHBOX
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Family attorney: There's no hit-and-run; there's no fender bender. "That was far more than a fender bender; that was intentional ramming."
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that was on Smith's attorney's recap: you need to just stop typing lunch lmao
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Family attorney: There's no hit-and-run; there's no fender bender. "That was far more than a fender bender; that was intentional ramming."
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that was on Smith's attorney's recap: you need to just stop typing lunch lmao
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:12 pm to WhoDat37
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honestly, deep down inside, i want to believe that will smith had no wrong doing in this situation.
I think this can't be said at all anymore.
I can say whatever the frick i want to... like i said, not even a quarter of the FACTS are out
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:13 pm to Keeble9145
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the tire marks on the street were from the hummer
Ive read this a few times now on here now and this is the ONLY place Ive seen it.
LINK please.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:15 pm to Fun Bunch
Cause if he felt his life was threatened he can shoot
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:15 pm to Vacherie Saint
quote:Look, someone posted the picture and the Hummers tires. It is fairly obvious. It has not been written anywhere though.
Ive read this a few times now on here now and this is the ONLY place Ive seen it.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:16 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Yes, yes! And then the cops pried the gun out of Smith's hand, locked it in the glove box, and told 10 witnesses at the scene to lie about it!!
You keep wanting to jump to the end and argue that it will be murder. I don't think anyone you are arguing with is taking the stance that it won't be murder. They are saying that it is plausible that it was not murder...and they are offering plausible examples of how that could be.
Every time you point out that what you think will ultimately be the end result, you are arguing with yourself.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:16 pm to Keeble9145
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that was on Smith's attorney's recap: you need to just stop typing lunch lmao
And then he came out and said there was, right? So he corrected himself publicly.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:16 pm to Fun Bunch
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You don't fricking know that.
take a deep breath my man. All this online lawyering you have been doing has you tired and cranky. Go take a nap.Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:18 pm to Lester Earl
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Cause if he felt his life was threatened he can shoot
Like I said, where Smith's gun was found will go a long way in Hayes' guilt or innocence. I think he'll do SOME time for shooting two people either way though. Unless there's some other video out there that is damning.
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:20 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Ive read this a few times now on here now and this is the ONLY place Ive seen it.
LINK please.
im not sure these are the same pictures but I saw these last night. the marks definitely arent from the benz as the treads dont match. also, if they are from the hummer, it is from when they pulled the hummer up on the wrecker because the pt cruiser parked on the side was even with wills benz, not the hummer. Im talking about the long track of treads. there is a small track right ahead of the large puddle of water which is where the hummer was which is more consistent with a skid and is likely from smiths vehicle. but it doesnt atch the 15 foot skid mark shite that someone was saying yesterday.
you have to scroll down to the bottom and find tweets from lyon yellins or whatever
LINK
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 4/14/16 at 3:21 pm to LNCHBOX
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Link? That's not what LE and lsupride were saying yesterday.
What were LE and lsupride saying?
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