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re: Mike Thomas contract thread: UPDATED info from Yahoo!

Posted on 7/25/19 at 4:36 pm to
Posted by The Midnight Rider
Where the River Empties
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Posted on 7/25/19 at 4:36 pm to
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The true value of AK to this offense will be seen as these young WRs continue to develop and the addition to Cook. If he repeats last year's output, I think the team has to bite the bullet and give AK his big payday. If there is a substantial drop off (which I'm about 50% certain there will be), then I think he would be replaceable like you're saying.

1000% agree with this. I know y’all love to talk about his receiving ability, but no RB, even on the Saints, should be thrown to as much as he was last year. Our drop-off at receiver beyond Mikey T was incredible.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 7/25/19 at 4:57 pm to
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Did you think we could improve upon Reggie?


Yes. I was a big Reggie fan, still am, but I never thought that he reached his full potential here

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Did you think we could have more production out of that position/need for our team than Sproles gave us?


Honestly at the time, no. I thought sproles pretty much topped off what a RB could produce in our offense. I’ve been completely blown away by what kamara has done which is why I want to keep him
This post was edited on 7/25/19 at 5:36 pm
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72032 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 5:22 pm to
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I know y’all love to talk about his receiving ability, but no RB, even on the Saints, should be thrown to as much as he was last year.


Yeah, he should be thrown to more as he is our most dynamic and explosive receiving threat.

You think Thomas isnt replaceable but Kamara is? You literally could do the same replaceable exercise with thomas as you did with Kamara. Are you really trying to elude that Kamara is a dime a dozen RB

Kamara has two of the top six points per touch seasons EVER. No one is doing what he is doing when he's got the ball in his hands He's elite in yards after contact and forcing missed tackles.. 5th in RZ targets AND 2nd in RZ rush attempts.. back to back 1500+ yards from scrimmage seasons including the least amount of touches to get to 1500+ his rookie year.. the list can go on and on with this guy. This is your dime a dozen RB
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 7/25/19 at 5:29 pm to
This board is always there for a solid laugh.

Mike Thomas over kamara is
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
71848 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 5:58 pm to
Bump.

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On #Saints Michael Thomas as GM Mickey Loomis talks: Sources say Loomis's frustration is simple. The Saints have offered to make Thomas the highest paid wideout in the NFL, with a contract that solidly exceeds Odell Beckham Jr. Loomis feels it's a great offer w/ great structure.
Posted by BTRDD
Member since Jun 2009
3397 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 5:59 pm to
Michael Thomas's worse play. Turning to refs crying for a PI call (not coming) instead of fighting for the ball.
This post was edited on 7/25/19 at 6:00 pm
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 7/25/19 at 6:02 pm to
He's trying to sell the interference, which given the events of 15 minutes earlier, was certainly at the forefront of everyone's mind.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 7/25/19 at 6:03 pm to
More from Loomis, per Ricardo Lecompte:


Saints GM Mickey Loomis on Michael Thomas situation:
-both sides not far apart
-Loomis & MT reps in contact every day
-bothers him deal isn't done and now in this situation
-doesn't like that MT is under contract and not here, but knows that's nature of negotiation
Posted by BTRDD
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/25/19 at 6:09 pm to
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He's trying to sell the interference, which given the events of 15 minutes earlier, was certainly at the forefront of everyone's mind.


And what did that get him? Would you have any faith in getting a PI call after seeing what preceded this in the 4th QTR? He stopped playing football with the ball live in the air.
This post was edited on 7/25/19 at 6:11 pm
Posted by The Midnight Rider
Where the River Empties
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 7/25/19 at 6:35 pm to
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You think Thomas isnt replaceable but Kamara is? You literally could do the same replaceable exercise with thomas as you did with Kamara. Are you really trying to elude that Kamara is a dime a dozen RB

Actually, I’m saying an elite WR is way more important in today’s NFL. Combined with the necessity of having an elite CB, it becomes easy to me to say I would rather keep MT and Latt over Kamara. I’m admittedly being a little hot takey with my argument against paying Kamara, but the basis for it is solid.

Anyone foaming at the mouth to pay a crazy amount of money to a RB in today’s NFL is wrong. Like I said, I know how much y’all love him (I do too), I know how versatile he is, I know how great he’s been...but I still want to pay MT and Latt over him. Just the nature of the beast.
Posted by C3W
East Narnia
Member since May 2009
1513 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 6:38 pm to
F that. Let him walk or trade him.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
71848 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 6:45 pm to
I do think Kamara is special and doubly special in Sean’s offense. That said, a big RB contract can go real bad, real fast.
Posted by Unknown_Poster
Member since Jun 2013
5758 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 7:04 pm to
Where's the gif of Drew Brees throwing a wounded duck up for the easy interception that effectively ended the game?

And, yeah, would have been better for him to take the sack.
Posted by broski722
Member since Apr 2018
595 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 7:20 pm to
Sends a nice message to the boat load of young players coming up for new contracts in the next couple years...

/s
This post was edited on 7/25/19 at 7:21 pm
Posted by droc504
Member since Nov 2018
10 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 7:21 pm to
What happens next off season when he holds out again to be the first to be paid 25 million?
Posted by Laaz2750
Los Angeles
Member since Aug 2008
8381 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 7:26 pm to
You mean after he signs a long-term contract THIS offseason?

That seems... unlikely.
Posted by t00f
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Posted on 7/25/19 at 7:27 pm to
You baws in here already turning on You can’t guard Mike?
Posted by Saintsntigers04
Member since Jun 2015
497 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 8:39 pm to
Why bc I think Drew Brees makes okay wide receivers look good. I do think Thomas is a top five wr but I think receivers can easily be replaced and I wouldn't pay one 20 million a year when you can spend 25 million a year on two really good wrs. When teams started to double team him last year the offensive production dropped.. Paying him that much and youre basically hoping a rookie turns into a really good player bc you can't afford a good number two receiver
This post was edited on 7/25/19 at 8:40 pm
Posted by FightingTigers138
In your thoughts
Member since Dec 2016
5746 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 8:44 pm to
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Let us all rewind back to when we are all upset at Drew Brees for holding out


QBs are worth the money. WRs are not.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72032 posts
Posted on 7/25/19 at 9:19 pm to
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Actually, I’m saying an elite WR is way more important in today’s NFL


Based on what? Way more important? Guys Antonio Brown, AJ Green, Julio, Beckham, Mike Evans, Hopkins havent won dick. What makes them more valuable?

Elite RBs are the foundation of an offense, they are touching the ball double the amount of a WR, and the threat alone of guys like Kamara or Barkely are allowing offenses to operate more freely

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Anyone foaming at the mouth to pay a crazy amount of money to a RB in today’s NFL is wrong


Ya, the Mark Ingrams, Jordan Howards or Lamar Millers type of RBs. To simply say Kamara is an RB you cant pay him is stupid. Dude put up a 10.2 yards per reception his rookie year, Thomas posted 11.2 yards per reception last year. And here you are going on about not paying a RB
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