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re: Mark Maske says Payton's interview with Broncos hit a snag (Payton responds)

Posted on 1/26/23 at 4:07 pm to
Posted by Parrish
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
2250 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 4:07 pm to
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Payton doesn't need to coach. he's set for life. he can literally make demands and if they aren't met he just goes the Bill Cower route.


Yes

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he holds all the power.


But Payton's power is limited by he Saints. He can negotiate a $100 million contract and full decision power but it means squat if the Saints don't free him.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
36213 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 4:13 pm to
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Payton thinks he walks on water, is arrogant and dictating demands on billionaires.


Why not? He's has almost all of the leverage in the situation. He doesn't "need" to coach the Denver Broncos. But the Denver Broncos need a coach.

Payton probably doesn't want the Broncos job all that bad. You have an aging QB that was awful last season and to whom you have committed a ton of money. Plus, you play in a division with two playoff teams. But, if the Broncos are willing to make you an offer you can't refuse then you consider taking it. Meaning, you give them all of your demands (even if some are unrealistic) to see if they will accept them. If they don't, who cares? You didn't REALLY want to coach them anyway and you know you will still be in high demand next year with, potentially, a better group options.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
36213 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 4:20 pm to
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But Payton's power is limited by he Saints. He can negotiate a $100 million contract and full decision power but it means squat if the Saints don't free him.


He probably won't, but I don't know if there is anything stopping him from signing a contract with whoever he wants. That would almost assuredly be a breach of his Saints contract, but he and his team could take the position of "frick it"...we'll pay the penalties. Bill Parcels did that when he left New England to take the Jets job. Ultimately the dispute was arbitrated by Paul Tagliabue and the Patriots got some draft picks from the Jets in compensation, but Parcells still became the coach of the Jets.
Posted by Athis
I AM Charlie Kirk....
Member since Aug 2016
16930 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 4:44 pm to
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power struggle with a member of the ownership group


And this is why he will never be a HC in Dallas...
Posted by OvertheDwayneBowe
Member since Sep 2016
3531 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 4:57 pm to
The saga won't end.

The Saints will end up bottom 5-10 next year and then it will start again.

Fire Dennis Allen.

Everything Payton wanted in a job is what he got and can get here. Headlines write themselves.
Posted by SippyCup
Gulf Coast
Member since Sep 2008
7087 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 4:59 pm to
It's either AZ or he won't be coaching next season. That opens the door to potentially returning to the Saints after another piss poor performance from D.A. and company.

It's starting to seem obvious that his ego can only go so far and we have an owner willing to give in to that.
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 1/26/23 at 5:13 pm to
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BREAKING NEWS: per sources Sean Payton is expected to be hired by the Arizona Cardinals. NOLA would be receiving 2024 1st Rd Pick, 2023 3rd Rd Pick. Sean Payton's contract is expected to be $24 million per year - 4 year contract. #AZCardinals #Saints

Posted by unlimited
Eunice
Member since May 2004
2022 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 5:24 pm to
Who is this guy?

Edited to add: never mind he is full of shite
This post was edited on 1/26/23 at 5:27 pm
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
56227 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 6:25 pm to
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He lucked into Brees when Miami failed his physical, and road Brees' coattails for 15 years. And if his complaint that ownership doesn't have enough juice is true, well, that's his fault for the bounties and all the years he thumbed his nose at the league.


Not one but TWO Truth Bombs here, folks!!

Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
34321 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 6:25 pm to
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Elway



100%


Both Elway and Payton have HUGE egos. Would not mesh well.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
79998 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 6:34 pm to
Elway doesn’t work for the broncos anymore
Posted by Wardniner01
Member since Dec 2020
2537 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 6:52 pm to
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So many are butthurt over Allen that they do not look at the long term value of getting a young QB if possible.


If Allen is the one using the pick, we still won't have a quarterback. He showed this year he will ride and die with Dalton
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
34321 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 6:56 pm to
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Elway doesn’t work for the broncos anymore



Yes he does? lol he's a consultant to their GM, basically a glorified assistant GM at this point.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
79998 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 7:15 pm to
He’s an outside advisor, he’s not on the payroll
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
7092 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 7:46 pm to
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If Allen is the one using the pick, we still won't have a quarterback.


This is what we brought Jeff Ireland in for.
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
28091 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 7:47 pm to
He’s the President of Football Ops. He’s on payroll.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
79998 posts
Posted on 1/26/23 at 8:03 pm to
His contract for that role expired in early 2022
Posted by SippyCup
Gulf Coast
Member since Sep 2008
7087 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 12:54 am to
If that is the deal, then frick Loomis.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
21272 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 7:11 am to
He craves the power and control.
Posted by Tigers0891
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2017
7196 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 11:42 am to
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She doesn't, she's part of the "ownership group", which is how a lot of teams are doing it these days. The Waltons are the primary owners. Her monetary inclusion is probably minimal, they bring her in as a name.

Its like if a group wanted to buy the Saints, they bring in the Mannings or something as front people, but there are much bigger money people involved




Wait, so you're telling me Shaq is NOT the CEO of Papa Johns?
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