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re: Malcolm Butler saga is just getting started

Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:39 am to
Posted by VaeVictus
Member since Feb 2017
1802 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:39 am to
Fun bunch huh?
Posted by WhoDatTigahsTampa
S.E.LA2WestFL
Member since Oct 2013
2281 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 11:40 am to
quote:

Stop worrying about the present year
Great points on our recent history of transactions equating to 7-9 seasons. Stop worrying about picks we missed on 4+ years ago as well. Just because those guys didn't pan out, under entirely different DC's at that, doesn't mean anyone that we draft this year will follow suit.
Posted by Load Toad
Haughton, LA
Member since Aug 2008
2473 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 12:11 pm to
I still think Saints can trade down for additional picks. They can get 2 starting corners in 1st 3 rds. Not satisfied with Williams and Breaux with prior injuries.
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 12:24 pm to
If we didn't have an old QB that we were pushing all-in for I would lean more to drafting a CB. All in is all in, let's do it.

Think I'll keep this list of 1st Rd CB busts in circulation...

Justin Gilbert #8 overall
SJB #58
Dee Miliner #9
DJ Hayden #12
Claiborne #6
Ras-I Dowling #33
Kyle Wilson #29
PRob #32
Posted by VA LSU fan
Virginia
Member since Dec 2007
8620 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 12:29 pm to
The more time goes by I am leaning towards pick 42 or nothing.

Take White at 32 and save 10 mil. Per year. Use that money on a proven RT or linebacker next year. Or better yet have a year where we don't convert contracts to signing bonuses and thus allow us to be in better cap situation going forward.
Posted by King George
Member since Dec 2013
5967 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

They can get 2 starting corners in 1st 3 rds.
Who can?
Posted by ChaChingBoyd
Jackson, MS
Member since Mar 2016
38 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 12:44 pm to
If we are going to look at draft bust....we should also consider the worst FA signing in history was a DB.
LINK

Nnamdi Asomugha, Philadelphia Eagles (2011)
Asomugha was coming off three consecutive Pro Bowl seasons with the Oakland Raiders when he signed a five-year, $60 million deal with the Eagles, whose offseason roster overhaul inspired backup quarterback Vince Young to call the Eagles a "Dream Team." Asomugha was the top free-agent player available in 2011, but the move didn't pay off in Philadelphia. The Eagles were 12-20 in the two seasons with Asomugha on the team, and he was released following the 2012 season. Asomugha played one more season in the NFL in 2013 with the San Francisco 49ers, but the career of one of the top cornerbacks in the league crashed and burned in a hurry after leaving Oakland.
Posted by karralum
southeastern conference territory
Member since Apr 2012
1138 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 12:58 pm to
Can we just wait until HE SIGNS HIS TENDER?
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7822 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:05 pm to
I mean everything you posted from that article is the same thing everyone has been saying for a month I don't see any ground breaking new info here. But for what it's worth I agree with you I'm on the Butler train and think it still happens.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127940 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

Fun bunch huh?



You're a complete moron if you would take a guy like Tim Hightower that is barely in the league, has two bad knees and is somewhat competent over a guy like Ingram in his prime that ran for more than 5 ypc last year.

The Ingram hate among Saints fans is stupid as hell.
Posted by VaeVictus
Member since Feb 2017
1802 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:28 pm to
While I appreciate the sarcasm the co-worker and I discussed this with doesn't really translate well to a forum, it is rather strange you'd resort to name calling for a conversation I shared I had about two nobody RB's.

Ingram is overpaid for what he brings to the table. He was a reach as a first round pick. He isn't that good.

So there you go.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7822 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

Ingram is overpaid for what he brings to the table. He was a reach as a first round pick. He isn't that good


top ten back in the league that makes 4 mil a year is overpaid? okay that logic is wrong. and hes in the third year of a front loaded contract so hes making less than 4 mil this year.

5th in yards per carry last year

running backs taken in first round last ten years

Adrian Peterson
Darren McFadden
Knowshon Moreno
CJ spiller
Mark Ingram
Trent Richardson
Doug Martin
David Wilson
Todd Gurley
Melvin Gordon
Zeke Elliot

Running Backs on that list better than Ingram over their careers

Peterson

Running Backs on that list better than Ingram last year

Zeke Elliot.

You are just completely wrong on so many levels. You can dispute it all you want but the fact is you just don't like the guy. Which is okay, but don't come in here with the he sucks mantra. He's turned that corner and gone out on the field and proven himself by far over the last 4 years.

Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13486 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

If we didn't have an old QB that we were pushing all-in for I would lean more to drafting a CB. All in is all in, let's do it. Think I'll keep this list of 1st Rd CB busts in circulation... Justin Gilbert #8 overall SJB #58 Dee Miliner #9 DJ Hayden #12 Claiborne #6 Ras-I Dowling #33 Kyle Wilson #29 PRob #32
Are you going to post the rookies that panned out? Or the free agent signings/trades that did not?
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 2:13 pm to
quote:


If we didn't have an old QB that we were pushing all-in for I would lean more to drafting a CB. All in is all in, let's do it.


Do you really think this is Drew's last year? I realize CB has potential to be a bust, but so do most picks.
Posted by WhoDatTigahsTampa
S.E.LA2WestFL
Member since Oct 2013
2281 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 2:19 pm to
Goes against their entire process for wanting to bring Butler in over a rookie, so probably not.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7747 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 2:42 pm to
Is another rookie really better than PJ Williams, Swann, Crawley, Moore?

I'd say no.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73923 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

Is another rookie really better than PJ Williams, Swann, Crawley, Moore?

I'd say no.




so, like, any rookie?
Posted by BlacknGold
He Hate Me
Member since Mar 2009
12400 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 3:32 pm to
quote:

Stop worrying about the present year and look down the road a little bit??


Yeah that's a great mentality to have when you have a young, up and coming QB. Brees is under contract for this, then who knows how many years he even plays. if we are truly looking down the road then we should be completely revamping right now and should deal Brees.

We are in "win now" because we have to be.
Posted by BlacknGold
He Hate Me
Member since Mar 2009
12400 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 3:33 pm to
what are we saving this cap for if not to bring in talented FAs?
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

Do you really think this is Drew's last year?


I think it's a much higher chance than I'm comfortable with
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