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re: Just glad we didn’t trade up

Posted on 4/24/26 at 9:50 am to
Posted by bonethug0180
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 9:50 am to
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Mickey may have even confirmed
He actually said the exact opposite. They were never going to trade up.

Now that's not to say he is telling the truth, but according to Loomis himself they were not going to trade away high assets at any point last year, even for the QB they really wanted, because Loomis trusted Ireland's work and that he would be there.
This post was edited on 4/24/26 at 9:52 am
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 9:52 am to
He said they thought about it and people in the room were very nervous. But they decided to sit
Posted by bonethug0180
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 9:53 am to
He said other people in the room wanted to go up and get their guy. He never seriously considered it, and that made the scouts that were high on him nervous.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 9:54 am to
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He said other people in the room wanted to go up and get their guy. He never seriously considered it, and that made the scouts that were high on him nervous.

That may be the conversation I am recalling and forgot about his comment about trusting in Ireland that Shough would be there
Posted by Alt26
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 10:00 am to
I thought before the draft stated that Tyson was the Saints #1 target. Because of that, I thought they would consider trading to 4 (to get ahead of NYG) or even 6 (to get ahead of Washington...who also needs WR help) to make certain they got Tyson. Once Tate went off the board at 4, then I think conversations in the war room about Reese and Styles suddenly started to happen in a "what it" type scenario thinking NYG could take Tyson. Once both were gone by 8 I think the Saints felt great about how the draft fell and that they didn't have to trade up to get a guy they really wanted in the beginning.

My question is who wanted Delane more between NO and Wash? It seems pretty clear KC thought one of those two were likely to pick Delane. So what if both Tyson and Delane were there at 8?
This post was edited on 4/24/26 at 10:03 am
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 10:06 am to
Once Reese slid a bit I was ok with moving up slightly to get him, I thought skins may go Tyson to give Jayden another weapon even though their D sucks arse

Ended up working out for us. Reese is also one of those guys you’re drafting for him what he can be vs. what he currently is…the giants apparently like collecting those types on their DL
Posted by bonethug0180
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 10:14 am to
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My question is who wanted Delane more between NO and Wash?
Us. From everything I heard and saw Washington wanted Love or Styles ahead of anyone else that might be available.

I do think we would have heavily considered Delane, as our 2 biggest needs were WR and CB. Not sure who the Saints saw as the better prospect of the 2 though. So I absolutely think the Chiefs, who wanted Love and Delane above anyone from what I saw, didn't want to risk losing their 2nd choice even if we ultimately would have still picked Tyson. It was too great of a risk for them to take.

For us, I heard Delane and Tyson were the 2 we were eyeing hardest of those thought to be available, and we stayed patient and got one of them. I think we would have been equally as happy with the other, which is why it would have been interesting to see what choice they would have made if it was available.
Posted by Sho Nuff
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 10:43 am to
I would've taken Delane over Tyson, but I'm hopeful and excited to have his skill set with Olave and Etienne.
Posted by JRE1980
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 10:43 am to
At least we didn't go OT, or any offensive lineman/project players. We took the one with the most talent at their position.

Posted by Townedrunkard
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 11:23 am to
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My question is who wanted Delane more between NO and Wash? It seems pretty clear KC thought one of those two were likely to pick Delane. So what if both Tyson and Delane were there at 8?


Have a friend that’s a huge Skins fan, and he claims that they wanted Love and Styles. That would mean KC was worried we’d take Delane.
Posted by TIGERSby10
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 11:42 am to
I wished we would have traded up to 5 for Reese instead of getting an often injured WR, where there is plenty of depth in the draft.
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 11:52 am to
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Have a friend that’s a huge Skins fan, and he claims that they wanted Love and Styles. That would mean KC was worried we’d take Delane.

Washington DNA is styles, we knew that for awhile before the draft.

Agree they thought we were taking Delane
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 12:00 pm to
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Have a friend that’s a huge Skins fan, and he claims that they wanted Love and Styles. That would mean KC was worried we’d take Delane.


I hope Delane goes on to be a great pro but I’m glad we didn’t trade up for him. Even the pick by the Chiefs was panned as a reach by the “experts.”

And the saints still are not in a position where they can sacrifice picks to go get one player. Especially when that player is the consensus “best” CB in a very weak class.
Posted by TIGERSby10
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 12:06 pm to
Delane is a sure fire stud at CB in the pros. He has all the measurables, speed, and has it between the ears. KC knew we would have grabbed him if he was there at 8, so they did the same thing they did years back with grabbing Mahomes.
Posted by bonethug0180
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 12:20 pm to
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And the saints still are not in a position where they can sacrifice picks to go get one player.
Yeah Loomis basically said this before the draft that we aren't one player away, so I wouldn't expect them to trade meaningful draft capital.

That said, a slight move up in the 2nd should only cost a 4th, which I think they would be willing to part with if they have someone with a much higher grade sitting there. If not, they will likely just sit and wait.

On the corners in particular, no one was considered a top flight corner this year, but Delane was viewed as the best of this class by most.
This post was edited on 4/24/26 at 12:22 pm
Posted by LSUZombie
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 1:14 pm to
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Delane is a sure fire stud at CB in the pros.


Delane is good but he was not considered that. If he were, he'd have gone top 3.

quote:

KC knew we would have grabbed him if he was there at 8, so they did the same thing they did years back with grabbing Mahomes.


Cool. KC can have Delane. The Saints are more than just one good corner away. And considering KC traded away their all pro corner, they kind of had to get Delane.
This post was edited on 4/24/26 at 2:09 pm
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 1:44 pm to
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Agree they thought we were taking Delane


If so, then does that beg a secondary question of how is KC finding out with apparent certainty of who the Saints are intending to draft?

If it was presumed Washington would take Styles at 7, then KC would have known Delane and Tyson would likely be available for the Saints at 8. It wasn't exactly a secret that the Saints needed a WR too, so they had to feel relatively certain Delane was going to be the Saints pick, regardless of a WR being available, to make that move.

I guess maybe you could say KC was concerned Cleveland would take Tyson, which would make Delane the Saints pick by default and KC knew they wouldn't be able to get Washington to risk losing Styles by moving off the 7th pick. Thus, if they were going to make certain they got Delane they had to get Cleveland out of the way too.
Posted by bonethug0180
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Posted on 4/24/26 at 1:55 pm to
It's not certainty (unlike with Mahomes where Payton couldn't keep his fricking mouth shut). It's odds. If they had 2 players they really wanted and 1 is gone (Love), and a team needs a CB as well as a WR, so odds may be 50/50, you trade up and get your guy.

But you only do that if you are desperate at a position, or if you feel that guy is a notch above the other available players. I think the Chiefs were in that first category, meanwhile we needed either position and could wait for one to fall.
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