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Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:46 am to LSUZombie
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Funny how people love to ignore stats when it goes against their narrative. It’s undisputable Brees was two different QBs this year.
That's a logical response. It started with Dallas.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:49 am to LSUZombie
12-24-16 LSU Zombie
Didn’t even search hard. You’re a fool
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Im honestly at the stage where I don't care about Payton and his act anymore. While I think 2017 is our year to make the playoffs, if it's remotely true he doesn't want to be here, then so be it. Also, send Brees with him and lets rebuild
Didn’t even search hard. You’re a fool
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:52 am to Lester Earl
at you actually searching.
Fan with a hot take! Onoz!
If I actually cared, I could have a field day with all the stupid hot takes you’ve posted. You’re the last one to throw stones.
Edit: this was also posted after our 3rd straight 7-9 season. I don’t regret what I posted at all.
Fan with a hot take! Onoz!
If I actually cared, I could have a field day with all the stupid hot takes you’ve posted. You’re the last one to throw stones.
Edit: this was also posted after our 3rd straight 7-9 season. I don’t regret what I posted at all.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 11:56 am
Posted on 1/21/19 at 11:54 am to clooneyisgod
I think you people are insane talking about Drew and a decline. He doesn’t have the arm strength he once did, and it was never that great to begin with, but he’s still a top 3 QB in the league.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 12:11 pm to CP3forMVP
ultimately the OL injuries are what lead to our demise. Brees looked solid early when the protection was holding up but once they started getting through and disrupting our timing brees got rattled a bit
Posted on 1/21/19 at 12:16 pm to clooneyisgod
His last six games this year were Bortles-like. Saints offense was unrecognizable when they got to Dallas. No explosion, OL regressed, WRs got no separation. We were grinding games where for a month we were flat out bullying teams.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 12:17 pm to LSUZombie
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Edit: this was also posted after our 3rd straight 7-9 season. I don’t regret what I posted at all.
You don’t have to regret. My point is you saying that Brees is declining is said out of emotion & not logic.
The team got nothing out of their WR2 & WR3 coming into the season, & the TE position was a zero as well. Yet Brees will finish second in the mvp voting & you think there is some “legit” decline going on. Lol
Won’t even touch on the OL, just simply read the injury report from like week 12-present
Posted on 1/21/19 at 12:20 pm to clooneyisgod
His last 5-6 games he threw for 7 TDs and 5 ints. He had noticeable decline in velocity, accuracy and reflexes. His body was obviously wearing down when he was asked to do more. He missed many passes yesterday that could've easily sealed that game up. Even on the missed major PI that was a TD if Brees threw it like he should instead of 10 yards behind the WR with the bad angle DB was taking.
Yes, he's in decline and anyone who says otherwise is in denial. They should seriously look for a QB replacement now to take it over after this upcoming season. Not sure if Bridgewater is the answer but it's probably better than drafting one.
Yes, he's in decline and anyone who says otherwise is in denial. They should seriously look for a QB replacement now to take it over after this upcoming season. Not sure if Bridgewater is the answer but it's probably better than drafting one.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 12:23 pm to clooneyisgod
Noodle arm gonna noodle
Posted on 1/21/19 at 12:24 pm to Lester Earl
He was fine when he had help. Brees in the past could put the team on his shoulders to win games with bums at WR. I think this further proves he's wearing down. Nobody says he sucks but he's definitely in physical decline. I don't think that can be debated. If you think otherwise you need to go put on the tape and look at him tossing balls 40 yards down the field yesterday. Go look at the Ginn pass. He looked like he was throwing a javelin putting everything he had in the pass.
Either father time is slowing him down or he had an injury nobody mentioned. Regardless, he showed considerable decline in the Atlanta game moving forward. Cowboys really showed it but if you watched closely on the 4 TD night he had against Atlanta he was a little off in that game too.
Either father time is slowing him down or he had an injury nobody mentioned. Regardless, he showed considerable decline in the Atlanta game moving forward. Cowboys really showed it but if you watched closely on the 4 TD night he had against Atlanta he was a little off in that game too.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 1/21/19 at 12:29 pm to deuce985
You are one of those people that just watches the throw but doesn’t see anything else. Like the defense in his face. I haven’t seen Brees struggle to make uncontested throws this year. Look at the whole picture
Posted on 1/21/19 at 12:30 pm to Lester Earl
Well, then you're blind. Because yesterday he was completely uncontested on the Ginn throw with 0 pressure and he throws the ball so far behind him it should've been an INT. That pass gets overlooked but it was another game changer that likely would've led to points.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 12:32 pm to deuce985
The absolute needs are a legitimate #2 & #3 WR + TE this offseason for one last ride.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 12:35 pm to JS87
Yep. Brees isn’t completely done but he’s at the point where he will need a lot of help at the skill positions in order to continue to thrive
Posted on 1/21/19 at 12:35 pm to JS87
I definitely think he needs this for many reasons. He's just not capable of putting the team on his shoulders to win games anymore. He shouldn't have to but he needed to yesterday and couldn't do it. Definitely not all his fault because the line played like shite the last 5 games and he definitely lacked someone to throw to not named Thomas.
I'd rather see them go get some big possession guys for Brees where he can use his accuracy because he doesn't have the arm strength to throw it down the field. He can still toss if 40 yards but he has to throw it like a javelin and it's sometimes amazing he can even do it like he does. Some of those balls hang forever in the sky.
Does anyone remember Rich Gannon(sp?)? That guy was like 100 years old and had nothing but accuracy at the end of his career with no arm and thrived well. Brees can still do that but he needs a balanced offense around him.
I'd rather see them go get some big possession guys for Brees where he can use his accuracy because he doesn't have the arm strength to throw it down the field. He can still toss if 40 yards but he has to throw it like a javelin and it's sometimes amazing he can even do it like he does. Some of those balls hang forever in the sky.
Does anyone remember Rich Gannon(sp?)? That guy was like 100 years old and had nothing but accuracy at the end of his career with no arm and thrived well. Brees can still do that but he needs a balanced offense around him.
This post was edited on 1/21/19 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 1/21/19 at 12:36 pm to Lester Earl
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My point is you saying that Brees is declining is said out of emotion & not logic.
He's 40 years old. Any QB playing for as long as he has is going to decline in some capacity. It's not saying he's a bad QB and we should move on from him, but he has limitations now that he hasn't had in the past.
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The team got nothing out of their WR2 & WR3 coming into the season, & the TE position was a zero as well.
All very true and it's been pointed out numerous times throughout the season when teams found ways to lock down Kamara or Thomas. Saints ignored the TE position and it bit them big time.
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Yet Brees will finish second in the mvp voting & you think there is some “legit” decline going on. Lol
Eh...6 weeks ago I think he would have. Gurley probably edges him for #2. Brees' performance after Dallas isn't MVP worthy in the slightest.
Posted on 1/21/19 at 12:38 pm to deuce985
The last 6 or 7 games the offense completely regressed. Was hard to watch. Brees has to take some of the blame. We need in FA some WRs and a TE
Posted on 1/21/19 at 12:43 pm to JS87
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The absolute needs are a legitimate #2 & #3 WR + TE this offseason for one last ride.
He didn’t have any of this all year, but when the OL started getting hurt, it fell apart. So yea it would help. But it all starts with the line
Posted on 1/21/19 at 12:46 pm to clooneyisgod
its a combination of both
brees has lost a step as well as arm strength but its more of a result of poor protection not giving him more time to throw in key points when absolutely needed like 3rd and long downs, but its also on lack of good fast receivers that can get open sooner.
in short, yes brees is declining and the offense is being tailored to a more short passing game rather then taking deep shots. if you notice, drews deep balls are more like punts (the ginn pass) the receivers must be out front so they can adjust speed and angles to go after those balls like hail marys rather then the balls being on target to where the receivers are running.
hes 40 yrs old so yes they need to help him out more now, but no its not that he is unable to do it, he just may be less able to take the deep shots without seeing a lot more interceptions as a result if he does
brees has lost a step as well as arm strength but its more of a result of poor protection not giving him more time to throw in key points when absolutely needed like 3rd and long downs, but its also on lack of good fast receivers that can get open sooner.
in short, yes brees is declining and the offense is being tailored to a more short passing game rather then taking deep shots. if you notice, drews deep balls are more like punts (the ginn pass) the receivers must be out front so they can adjust speed and angles to go after those balls like hail marys rather then the balls being on target to where the receivers are running.
hes 40 yrs old so yes they need to help him out more now, but no its not that he is unable to do it, he just may be less able to take the deep shots without seeing a lot more interceptions as a result if he does
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