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re: instead of kneeling, Cam Jordan is being proactive in bettering the community.

Posted on 5/11/21 at 4:48 pm to
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/11/21 at 4:48 pm to
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That is a terrible way to approach interactions with a police officer. Just flat out terrible yet you think a police officer who deals with jaywalkers, speeders, liars, thieves, drug addicts, drug dealers, wife beaters, child abusers, prostitutes, rapists, murderers everyday should respect you? Funny thing is they usually do 99.9% of the time and that is truly amazing to me. Personally I’m glad there are some out there that have a calling to do that job because I sure don’t. It’s not worth it. Not in today’s society. Not when there are people that have the mindset you have. Every interaction I’ve ever had with law enforcement I’ve been respectful, courteous, and have always complied with their commands. Guess what? I’m still alive. So would a lot of others if they wold have only complied or better yet not been up to no good.



It's just the cool way to be nowadays. Most people hating on the police are white and grew up in gated communities. Even CNN tried going around asking people in the black neighborhoods of Minny and pretty sure it was 100% were for more police not less, go to the nice wealthy white neighborhoods and all the HS and college kids want less police. Bottom line, you get a city that's 50/50 white, black, most of the calls for help are going to come from blacks.

None of the posters on here have had a bad dealing with police other than a ticket, they can come on here and BS about being abused or know someone who has, more than likely, vast majority are making shite up for a message board. I myself work alongside city police daily as a medic and see the crap they put up with, I very very seldom see them become disrespectful to anyone unless that person disrespected the officer first. And people are disrespectful to officers on a daily, almost hourly basis, most of the time the officers still ignore it and go on about their job.

All 800,000 or however many officers in our country aren't gonna be great, gonna be some pieces of shits, some lazy, some who don't care or are burnt out, and most, that I see, who love what they do, but that number is definitely dwindling. No matter, to the anti police posters, there will always be police, they ain't gonna be defunded long enough to make a difference, they'll be re-funded as soon as the white liberals move on to something else, deal with it.
Posted by Seeker
Member since Jul 2011
1846 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 5:13 pm to
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Show me where there is a law that says an officer can use excessive force against someone because they were disrespectful. After that I'd like to see the law that says disrespect for authority is a crime.


Hey straw man show me where someone said any of those things.

The truth is any interaction requires mutual respect between parties. It doesn’t mean that police officers don’t have authority or that they should abuse it. But they are in a position of authority and it should be respected. A true conversation about interactions with the police can’t exclude how they are treated by members of the community they serve and how different cultures raise their kids on the right/wrong ways to interact with the police and other types of authority (scholars staff). It needs to a real conversation from a position of honesty and reflection. I have yet to see this approached the right way, but I think it is close.
Posted by floyd13
New Orleans Uptown
Member since Sep 2010
1763 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 5:16 pm to
That's easy to say when your not the one being profiled in your own community everyday when you walk or drive in your own neighborhood. It does get old after awhile and im speaking from experience i.e where you going or you fit the description of a suspect where looking for. This is what happens daily but its not Cam job to fix this instead its the so call elected officials that where voted in to solve this problem and it can start with education in the public schools better learning equals lower crime element and more future leaders to uplift these neighborhoods but than who would pay the cops,judges,court administration etc ? So you see its all a cycle that they want to keep going that's where systemic racism comes in.

Your Welcome,
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24573 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 5:16 pm to
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now teach the youth to respect authority as well.

Posted by Seeker
Member since Jul 2011
1846 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 5:22 pm to
Why are people being “profiled”? Because someone that fits a similar description committed a crime in their community? What is the actual issue? That a crime in your community was committed or that the police are checking people out and actively trying to stop/prevent crime? What is getting tiresome? How do you expect the police to actually stop/prevent crime? Are you going to call and report criminals and testify in court? Are you going to provide the police information about illegal activity? How about calling in tips for known criminals? Do you raise your kids with and support the “snitches get stitches” mantra? Do you raise your kids and encourage your community to work with the police to stop/prevent crime?
This post was edited on 5/11/21 at 5:25 pm
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77614 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 5:55 pm to
A lot of assumptions that the kneeling players were ONLY kneeling.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166313 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 6:59 pm to
No less than the assumptions they make by their kneeling
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77614 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 8:33 pm to
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No less than the assumptions they make by their kneeling



This literally makes no sense, chad, but ok.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127413 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 9:06 pm to
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No less than the assumptions they make by their kneeling

Are you trying to say that police brutality wasn’t a problem?
Posted by armydude
Member since Aug 2014
777 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 9:52 pm to
LINK

It’s an anti racist training for 80 police officers to help them overcome their “biases”. Haha WTF!! What a joke. As a veteran involved with large groups of people of all types of different races, I can guarantee there are not 80 police officers in New Orleans that hold any type of bias, or have a racist bone in their body.
Posted by Seeker
Member since Jul 2011
1846 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 10:09 pm to
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Are you trying to say that police brutality wasn’t a problem?


Not nearly as big of a problem as 6% of the population committing 53% of the violent crime. Most of which is black on black violence. But it’s cool. You aren’t allowed to think about that unless Bron Bron says it can be a “social issue.”
This post was edited on 5/11/21 at 10:18 pm
Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1784 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 6:32 am to
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No matter your thoughts on the matter, at the end of the day Cam is using his influence to actually help try to better his community versus being a show cause. That, I have a very high level of respect for.



Cam did Kneel like others. Others that kneeled are using their influence to actually help try to better their communities as well. Before and since the kneeling started.
Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1784 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 6:52 am to
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Not nearly as big of a problem as 6% of the population committing 53% of the violent crime. Most of which is black on black violence.



True, can we deal with both? Do you hold cops and criminals to the same standard? Can we treat both to the standard they are held to. These are two separate issues with different causes and effects. Both need to be addressed and discussed.

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But it’s cool


Only to those that are doing it.

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You aren’t allowed to think about that unless Bron Bron says it can be a “social issue.”



It was an issue before he was born, it just wasn't on video. The black community has been discussing and addressing both issues for years.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54570 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 7:19 am to
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easy to say when your not the one being profiled in your own community everyday when you walk or drive in your own neighborhood. It does get old after awhile and im speaking from experience i.e where you going or you fit the description of a suspect where looking for.
Posted by Lsuismyfav
Kentwood, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1784 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 8:10 am to
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A true conversation about interactions with the police can’t exclude how they are treated by members of the community they serve and how different cultures raise their kids on the right/wrong ways to interact with the police and other types of authority (scholars staff). It needs to a real conversation from a position of honesty and reflection.


The history of interactions with police cannot be excluded either, how they have treated members of the community. EVERY culture raises their kids to respect authority and the right/wrong way to interact with police and other types of authority. However, not all cultures are viewed through the lens of the people who choose not to respect authority. Do you think that the cultures you believe teach their kids to respect the police always do so? If they don't, is it viewed as a cultural problem or a personal problem?
Posted by Robber DeNiro
Member since Jan 2021
3160 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 8:42 am to
Omg, some of yall still don't understand what the kneeling was about!!!!

I'm done with ignorance and racism because people are too dumb to understand the truth.

Same ppl still think Trump won the election.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166313 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 8:54 am to
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Same ppl still think Trump won the election.


Trump Won by a lot. fricking Loser.
Posted by LaTexSaint
Member since Jul 2013
1023 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 10:50 am to
A lot of players are active in the community, most fans just happened to be ignorant of those things.

Kneeling brought attention to a serious issue in this country with the police.

In Baton Rouge, half of the Baton Rouge Narcotics division has been arrested or transferred because of corruption.

LINK
Posted by LaTexSaint
Member since Jul 2013
1023 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 10:56 am to
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Why are people being “profiled”? Because someone that fits a similar description committed a crime in their community? What is the actual issue? That a crime in your community was committed or that the police are checking people out and actively trying to stop/prevent crime? What is getting tiresome? How do you expect the police to actually stop/prevent crime? Are you going to call and report criminals and testify in court? Are you going to provide the police information about illegal activity? How about calling in tips for known criminals? Do you raise your kids with and support the “snitches get stitches” mantra? Do you raise your kids and encourage your community to work with the police to stop/prevent crime?



Majority of school shooters are white male. Majority of mass shooters are white male. With those statistics, you would think more white males would be randomly accosted by police officers because you know people that look like that commit school shootings and mass shootings...
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166313 posts
Posted on 5/12/21 at 10:58 am to
an argument about urban crime and statistics won't be your friend dude.
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