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If Mingo dropped to us would you take him @#15? Add Montgomery to this thread!
Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:13 pm
Yes, I am an LSU fan. Not being a homer for LSU but these local players just happen to be the players we know the most about. Mingo also represents one of our greatest needs. He's not the DE we need but a great pass rushing OLB. With him projected at #8 it may be wishful thinking anyway.
This post was edited on 1/6/13 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:16 pm to Drex
I think of the two Montgomery would fit our defense better. I know Spags loves those undersized DEs in his scheme so I do expect us to take someone quick to line up across from Jordan.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:16 pm to Drex
God yes. No way in hell you turn down a talent like that. He's a Miller or Smith clone IMO
Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:22 pm to saintsfan92612
Montgomery hasn't committed yet but one of the two would have to drop to us unless there is a run on DE's and OLB's ahead of us.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:28 pm to Drex
no...I don't think he does much at all in the NFL. I think he will get swallowed up by NFL OTs and spend a career getting stonewalled or running right by the pocket.
This post was edited on 1/6/13 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:32 pm to Drex
I posted this a while back, but I think Mingo has potential to be a big time football player in the NFL if he's used correctly.
I think he's got the potential of the guys above. I think Montgomery will be another Will Smith/Cameron Jordan type DE. I just think Mingo has the potential to be a Demarcus Ware or JJ Watts type of playmaker.
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As a senior, Freeney was 6'2" and 250 lbs. per his Syracuse bio. His combine numbers were 6'1" and 266 lbs.
Elvis Dumerville's combine numbers list him at 6'1" and 257 lbs.
Kamerion Wimbley is listed as 6'4", 255 lbs in his 7th season.
Terrell Suggs was listed at 6'4", 257 lbs out of college.
Mingo is consistently listed at 6'4"/6'5" and 240 lbs. If he stayed his Sr. year, he could be around 250 pretty easily.
I think he's got the potential of the guys above. I think Montgomery will be another Will Smith/Cameron Jordan type DE. I just think Mingo has the potential to be a Demarcus Ware or JJ Watts type of playmaker.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:37 pm to Suntiger
If Montgomery bolts for the draft, where is he projected?
Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:41 pm to Drex
Looks like Montgomery and Logan just declared for the draft. Prospects getting better for our pick at LSU's expense.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:45 pm to Drex
I rather Montgomery unless we switch to a 3-4
Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:50 pm to Suntiger
First, I don't think Mingo is 240. He's got to put on a lot of weight while not sacrificing speed and mobility.
Those othee guys have 20+ lbs on him as it is. Dumerville/Freeney are short and use their low center of gravity as an advantage when rushing the passer. Not really how mingo gets it done.
Suggs and Wimbley are thick and jacked.
I like Mingo. But if he weighs under 240 at the combine he may be more of a project than an NFL ready DE. He has a long way to go to be a Ware/Watt playmaker
Those othee guys have 20+ lbs on him as it is. Dumerville/Freeney are short and use their low center of gravity as an advantage when rushing the passer. Not really how mingo gets it done.
Suggs and Wimbley are thick and jacked.
I like Mingo. But if he weighs under 240 at the combine he may be more of a project than an NFL ready DE. He has a long way to go to be a Ware/Watt playmaker
Posted on 1/6/13 at 2:35 pm to Drex
As a LB, yes. As a 4-3 defensive end, no.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 2:38 pm to GynoSandberg
Yeah this is a tough one for me. He shows amazing potential with his quickness but I just have to wonder if he can be strong enough to be a dominant pass rusher. I think he could be if he works at it hard enough but we will just have to wait and see
Posted on 1/6/13 at 2:50 pm to Suntiger
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t I think Mingo has potential to be a big time football player in the NFL if he's used correctly.
well, obviously.
i dont think that is in our defense though.
ideally he'll be drafted by a 3-4 team.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 2:56 pm to Melvin
I don't think Mingo comes in and dominates in the NFL. None of those guys did, it took them a few years. I think he needs to be used like the Ravens use Suggs. DE/OLB who rushes the QB. I think they've even put Suggs as a safety sometimes.
I don't think Mingo starts out as an everydown DE, but as a situational player. Then he becomes that Suggs/Mathis/Freeny every down type of player. IMHO
I don't think Mingo starts out as an everydown DE, but as a situational player. Then he becomes that Suggs/Mathis/Freeny every down type of player. IMHO
Posted on 1/6/13 at 2:59 pm to Suntiger
Duh! don't come here with that bs saying Mingo can't play linebacker in the 4-3 look at Von Miller projected to play linebacker in a 3-4 and broncos play 4-3 and he is one of the best players and pass rushers in the league
Posted on 1/6/13 at 3:08 pm to Drex
Mingo has an insane ceiling, so hell yes. If he can gain any weight+strength, he's going to be unstoppable in the NFL.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 3:15 pm to Saintsfan985
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Duh! don't come here with that bs saying Mingo can't play linebacker in the 4-3 look at Von Miller projected to play linebacker in a 3-4 and broncos play 4-3 and he is one of the best players and pass rushers in the league
Dude you need to chill the frick out. Von Miller is not Mingo. Welcome to the board but if most of your posts offer this little rationale I fear it'll be a short stay.
Posted on 1/6/13 at 3:16 pm to St Augustine
I'm not comparing him to Von Miller at all. I was just saying Mingo has the skill set to play 4-3 lineback he can be our Von Miller
Posted on 1/6/13 at 3:21 pm to Saintsfan985
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Duh! don't come here with that bs saying Mingo can't play linebacker in the 4-3 look at Von Miller projected to play linebacker in a 3-4 and broncos play 4-3 and he is one of the best players and pass rushers in the league
well. von miller is an actual LB.
Mingo is a DE
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