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Posted on 4/8/25 at 1:31 pm to Fun Bunch
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First of all the numbers are simply wrong. Next year's 2nd is worth less (substantially) than this year's 2nd.
Correct. It’s always valued one round later.
So a first next year is valued as a 2nd this year. Two second rounders don’t equal a top ten pick.
This post was edited on 4/8/25 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 4/8/25 at 1:34 pm to Townedrunkard
LINK
another value chart that has me killing the value of trading pick 9 for picks 33, 67, and next year's 2nd. HUGE WIN for Chad504boy.
another value chart that has me killing the value of trading pick 9 for picks 33, 67, and next year's 2nd. HUGE WIN for Chad504boy.
Posted on 4/8/25 at 2:53 pm to Chad504boy
quote:Are future picks valued a round down?
We can’t have a real conversation if you gonna say dumb shite like this
To be even more specific most teams value a future pick as either the last pick of that round or the first pick of the next round, but sometimes valued even lower since the team has to wait a year to get a return (this effect is more towards the higher round picks, so a future 1st is devalued more than a future 2nd, and so on).
This post was edited on 4/8/25 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 4/8/25 at 2:55 pm to bonethug0180
Posted on 4/8/25 at 2:57 pm to Chad504boy
Posted on 4/8/25 at 7:26 pm to St Augustine
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9 for 33 is a terrible trade. 9 for 33 & 67 is a winner for the Saints in terms of value and if they get next year's 2nd in the process it is a steal. In fact, this year's 2nd and next year's 2nd is a win. This year's 1st for the browns 3rd(67)and next year's 1st would be a win as well.
Y’all are either beyond retarded or trolling your asses off. Even the title suggests that Chad is just in a Chad mood and looking to do his dumb arguing thing.
I am not advocating for a draft pick trade out of the 9th spot nor do I expect that. I was simply using a draft value calculator to determine a win or a loss in draft pick trades. Which statement that I made using a draft value calculator is wrong? Maybe you use a different calculator or is it your innate knowledge NFL valuation of the draft that makes you conclude I am retarded? I do not troll because I don't really enjoy doing that and I am not very good at it even if I try. I leave that to an artist like El Gaucho.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:05 am to Chad504boy
You keep talking about the "math" like it is gospel among the GMs trading draft picks. Name one team that has traded a top 10 pick for a second round pick and not selected in the first round?
If the Saints had a late pick (20s), I could see it happen and not be against it. The Saints need an impact player. Number 9 gets them that impact player.
This is a horrible trade scenario. One thing is for sure, the Saints fans on here unilaterally hate this idea.
If the Saints had a late pick (20s), I could see it happen and not be against it. The Saints need an impact player. Number 9 gets them that impact player.
This is a horrible trade scenario. One thing is for sure, the Saints fans on here unilaterally hate this idea.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 8:34 am to Chad504boy
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Saints acquire browns 2nd round pick 33 (first of day 2), 3rd round pick 67 and next year's 2nd. Maye toss in a pick swap next year. That gives us now 5 picks in 2nd and 3rd round this year.
Nice trade, Sonny Weaver
Posted on 4/9/25 at 8:36 am to MasterKnight
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Name one team that has traded a top 10 pick for a second round pick and not selected in the first round?
It has happened, but it has been awhile.
I do not believe it has happened in the past 10 years
Posted on 4/9/25 at 8:36 am to MasterKnight
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Name one team that has traded a top 10 pick for a second round pick and not selected in the first round?
So pick 32 you settle down. Pick 33 we are crying. Your simpleton logic is awful.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:22 pm to Chad504boy
I never said that. Yet you quoted a question and never answered. If the Saints were to trade out of the number 9 pick, the pick in the first round needs to be no later than 16. You don't move back 20 plus draft selections. Your whole logic on this scenario is ridiculous. Not even Kevin Costner fake GM would make this trade.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 12:53 pm to MasterKnight
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I never said that.
You are when you keep crying over a label of getting back a first round pick
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:01 pm to Chad504boy
I made one response to you. Def not "keep crying". You are trying to make your argument rational yet no one agrees bc it is stupid. It's not the fact of not having a first round draft pick, it's the fact of dropping from number 9 (top 10 selection) all the way out of the first round. I said in last response that you don't give up 20 plus draft selections. Even to number 32 is not a good trade either.
I also said if the Saints had a late first round pick (20 and higher), than trading out of first and picking up 2nd and 1st for next year I would be ok.
Now name a team that has selected number 9 overall and traded that pick for 2nd round selection. Did not have a first round selection in that draft. Can you be brave enough to answer that.
I also said if the Saints had a late first round pick (20 and higher), than trading out of first and picking up 2nd and 1st for next year I would be ok.
Now name a team that has selected number 9 overall and traded that pick for 2nd round selection. Did not have a first round selection in that draft. Can you be brave enough to answer that.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 1:56 pm to MasterKnight
in all honesty, i used a trade value chart that checked out enough to start the thread. Droppping from 9 to 33 doesn't bother me none. We would be getting a first round quality player at the pick, have all night to decide and evaluate trade offers. We'd save cap space, add picks of guys that present a lot of value in 2 and 3. If dropping that far down demands their 1st next year and my idea was off on compensation to receive, cool, obviously i'm cool with that too.
I've said a few times arguing over the amount of compensation wasn't the entire point of the thread.
I've said a few times arguing over the amount of compensation wasn't the entire point of the thread.
Posted on 4/9/25 at 2:25 pm to Chad504boy
thought this was interesting.
i was doing a mock draft simulator. looked at trade offers for 9, browns are first offer. See below.
My trade in OP gives me about 335 pts and this trade offer only gives 278 per bones chart he posted.
i was doing a mock draft simulator. looked at trade offers for 9, browns are first offer. See below.
My trade in OP gives me about 335 pts and this trade offer only gives 278 per bones chart he posted.
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