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How exactly is Carr supposed to be good when the O Line played so badly?

Posted on 9/22/24 at 3:35 pm
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
29364 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 3:35 pm
I guess many were waiting for the “same old Carr” hot take but what’s he supposed to do when the interior line is getting smashed and he can’t plant his feet to throw?

Every QB would look terrible playing behind our line today. Was McCoy really that valuable? I guess so.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
12550 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 3:36 pm to
Every team will play the Saints the same way this year. The Eagles are a roadmap. Hopefully we can fix it.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
75617 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 3:37 pm to
I dont think Carr was bad. I mean he wasn’t awesome but he’s not why we lost. It was just a clunky, no rhythm day for the whole offense.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
36218 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 3:37 pm to
Fortunately, not every NFL team has the talent level The Eagles have on the defensive line matter fact I don’t think there’s another team with that talent level.
Posted by tigersquad89
Raleigh, NC
Member since Oct 2014
8103 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 3:37 pm to
Nah, every team doesn’t have elite interior pass rushers. Also, if McCoy plays this game looks very different. Hopefully McCoy is back soon.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23282 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 3:38 pm to
During the Brees years it was constantly discussed about the importance of the interior OL.

I think you have to look at only did you lose McCoy and strong play at the center position. When Patrick moved over he didn’t play well at Center and the play at LG got dramatically worse with his replacement.
This post was edited on 9/22/24 at 3:39 pm
Posted by Front9back9
Member since Jun 2020
302 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 3:40 pm to
He was supposed to lead to a field goal attempt on that last drive.
Posted by ElRoos
Member since Nov 2017
7452 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 3:46 pm to
First of all, you aren’t wrong. The OL played horribly. However, I think what’s frustrating about Carr is he has no ability to escape the pocket and extend the play. He is a complete statue back there. Any little pressure and the play is as good as dead.

If teams can stop the run against us I do not trust Carr to win us the game.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
75617 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 3:46 pm to
quote:

If teams can stop the run against us I do not trust Carr to win us the game.


This is fair
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23282 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 3:47 pm to
Almost no one can extend plays at QB from pressure up the middle.
Posted by tigersquad89
Raleigh, NC
Member since Oct 2014
8103 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

If teams can stop the run against us I do not trust Carr to win us the game.


Well no shite when the line doesn’t hold up in the middle, nobody can. That’s not a carr specific issue
Posted by Jnola
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2016
1446 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 4:03 pm to
So eagles OL played awesome today?cause hurts was under pressure also but somehow he still threw for over 300 yards without his best two wr but let’s keep making excuses for Carr Lol
Posted by tehchampion140
Member since Sep 2010
18876 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 4:06 pm to
quote:

So eagles OL played awesome today?cause hurts was under pressure also but somehow he still threw for over 300 yards without his best two wr but let’s keep making excuses for Carr Lol

There’s no way anyone who isn’t a moron could watch that game and come away thinking Carr and Hurts faced the same amount of pressure.
Posted by xXLSUXx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Oct 2010
10417 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 4:08 pm to
Both guards pulling in and blocking each other tells you all you need to know about this OL.
Posted by Jnola
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2016
1446 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 4:09 pm to
I never said they face same amount of pressure Lol but let’s not act like our DL was getting pressure on hurts smh
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
6860 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 4:11 pm to
No we had zero interior pass rush on purpose
The defense wanted to hold the pocket an make hurts beat you.
We got destroyed by a tightend
Posted by Jnola
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2016
1446 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 4:12 pm to
Carr got sack 1 to hurts getting sack 4 so he wasn’t have a clean pocket either that what I’m saying we can’t expect every time we throw the ball Carr gone have a clean pocket this is nfl the other team trying to win also
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32021 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 4:26 pm to
Carr is really bad against pressure. Much more so than the better QBs. That’s been the knock on him his entire career.

The first two games the scheme allowed a very average OL to be effective. That allowed Carr to be effective. As soon as McCoy left you saw how perilous the Saints offense is. The butterfly effect is the Saints immediately got much worse a center, which made them much worse at guard, which put more pressure on the tackles (one a rookie and the other, at best, an average), which then increased the pressure against a QB who is really bad at handling it. Combine that without the versatility of Hill to find a few plays no one else can make, and the OC was a victim of his personnel. There was just nothing he could do. Philly could focus on shutting down the run knowing Carr will melt more often than not against pressure.

The Saints need all of their starters. Any glitch in the matrix (today literally two players) destroys the whole system
Posted by Athis
Member since Aug 2016
14426 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 4:49 pm to
I don't understand the hate on Carr... He was under pressure almost every play... This is what it is... The O-Line stunk up the joint today and Philly's secondary was obviously playing well... Also Philly's D-line played very good... How many deep passes did Carr have today? How many times did he check down? Carr only had 142 passing yards... Kamara on 26 runs had 87 yards...
Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
11307 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 5:05 pm to
Carr can’t not win a game for you. It has to be perfect for him to be successful.

He’s been that same player his whole career.
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