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Here to eat crow about Sean Payton

Posted on 9/25/22 at 2:02 pm
Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 9/25/22 at 2:02 pm
I was way too hard on Payton. I always knew he was a very good head coach, but during the last 5-6 seasons especially, he did some things that irked me. Dumb challenges, stubborn playcalling and personnel choices. Getting annoyed that he got so many delay of games / wasted so many timeouts.

I let that cloud my judgement and my appreciation for him. He is a Hall of Fame head coach who succeeded at the highest level for 15 years. We always had a swagger and a team that fought and believed when he was leading them. We were insanely lucky to have him for so long.



This post was edited on 9/25/22 at 2:04 pm
Posted by topcat88
Member since Nov 2015
4621 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 2:03 pm to
Glory days are over.
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
29088 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 2:05 pm to
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Glory days are ove


What glory days, losing in the playoffs every other year on average?!
This post was edited on 9/25/22 at 2:05 pm
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
29760 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 2:05 pm to
I’ll join you in that. I was way too optimistic the team would carry on with the talent we have. I was wrong. Coaching makes all the difference.
Posted by tigersquad89
Raleigh, NC
Member since Oct 2014
8504 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 2:05 pm to
Losing in the playoffs every year is a hell of a lot better than being a bottom feeder when you have a top 5 roster
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
173841 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

Dumb challenges, stubborn playcalling and personnel choices


This happened in 2006 too
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
39313 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

What glory days, losing in the playoffs every other year on average?!
we’ll let’s look at what this franchise was before…
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
25130 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 2:06 pm to
Payton had Drew Brees and split when he didn’t anymore

Sometimes you just find yourself in an ideal situation

Allen has Winston. Watch the game dude
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
26133 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 2:07 pm to
He’s a HoF coach. You didn’t think different, did you mate?

Eta see edit yeah we’d be way better off with Sean
This post was edited on 9/25/22 at 2:08 pm
Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 9/25/22 at 2:07 pm to
Absolutely it did. But I was always shocked that Payton never improved on those things and that shock turned into resentment over time. It's his one flaw is he's so fricking stubborn. But that's probably why he's a great leader and the guys all buy in year after year.
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
14495 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 2:08 pm to
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SirWinston

Please start a go fund me for a billboard begging CSP to immediately return.
Posted by Domeskeller
Astrodome
Member since Jun 2020
10127 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

He is a Hall of Fame head coach who succeeded at the highest level for 15 years.


No, he's not. Like everyone else in this organization, he coasted on Drew Brees' coattails. Why do you think he left after one year without Brees?
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

Payton had Drew Brees and split when he didn’t anymore

Sometimes you just find yourself in an ideal situation

Allen has Winston. Watch the game dude


Payton actually had a REALLY good record when Brees wasn't his starter. I think last year was one of his best coaching jobs we saw. He was smart enough to realize that Jameis ain't it and that it's a grind without a HOF QB.

I think if Brees had retired a year earlier and we had gotten Tom Brady that Payton would have stayed and extended our glory days by 3-5 extra years.
This post was edited on 9/25/22 at 2:11 pm
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 2:11 pm to
Ha, looks like I was wrong. Said this board would turn against Dennis Allen hire by week 8 looking like it will be much sooner.
Posted by supersaints9
Colleyville,Tx
Member since Dec 2009
19691 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 2:17 pm to
Who is going to eat crow about Winston ???
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 2:22 pm to
Winston is okay he's just hurt.
Posted by Gavin Elster
Member since Mar 2020
3465 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 2:27 pm to
Duh
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103958 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

What glory days, losing in the playoffs every other year on average?!


Better than no playoffs.

And we got completely fricked out of a couple SB appearances by the refs at no fault of SP or the team’s performance
Posted by BoudinChicot
Member since Sep 2021
2336 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 2:36 pm to
Then Allen needs to have the nuts to bench him until he is healthy.

Having him out there stinking it up and risking further injury isn't helping anyone.
Posted by SirWinston
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Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 6:49 pm to
Not totally fair as the team was primarily built for the tail end of Brees'prime (2016-2020)
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