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re: Have coaches determined who or what’s holding back the Saints offense?

Posted on 9/23/22 at 11:43 am to
Posted by southsidedell
Tampa, FL
Member since Dec 2016
4720 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 11:43 am to
Bingo. Sean used to scheme dudes wide tf open. Now everything is long arse developing routes. And quitting on the run after one fumble. No identity. No confidence in any of the players.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16367 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 11:56 am to
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And quitting on the run after one fumble.

This has been a constant since 2006. Difference is, we had a QB that could methodically carve up any defense so it was often overshadowed.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72010 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:15 pm to
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Bingo. Sean used to scheme dudes wide tf open.


Your eyes are deceiving you. What you see if the difference in a 70% passer vs a 60% passer.

Carmichael has been here 14 years, he knows how to call an offense. It’s not going to look exactly the same as having a Drew Brees or even a Taysom under center. What ya saw last week was a QB who lacked confidence and did not know where he was going with the ball, one who threw a ton of passes falling backwards
Posted by Jim Hopper
Ocean Springs Mississippi
Member since Sep 2019
2044 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:36 pm to
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This is the same clunky offense that we had last year with CSP. Last in league in passing yards, 19th in scoring offense. Drew isn’t walking through that door


Lets completely ignore the fact that Callaway and Smith were our 1&2 WR last year and are now our 4&5. 4 different QB's and a Starting O-Line that played only 1 game together last year.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81606 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 12:43 pm to
Jameis seems like a good dude imo
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30197 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:03 pm to
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He's a shitty QB and a shitty person, that's all.



Better at both than you.
Posted by RazzleDazzle
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2018
1267 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:08 pm to
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a gimpy Jameis cost us that game IMO.


A health Jameis sucks too.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72010 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:21 pm to
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Lets completely ignore the fact that Callaway and Smith were our 1&2 WR last year and are now our 4&5. 4 different QB's and a Starting O-Line that played only 1 game together last year


What’s with the early struggles this year bubba?

Can we all agree we should go out and carve up the panthers?
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19820 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:28 pm to
Qb
Posted by Jim Hopper
Ocean Springs Mississippi
Member since Sep 2019
2044 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:41 pm to
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Can we all agree we should go out and carve up the panthers?


If this offense doesn't score 17+ against Carolina this week than yes we should all be concerned about this team and Carmichael's playcalling.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72010 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:57 pm to
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Carmichael's playcalling.


same guy who called plays in 2011 when CSP broke his leg?


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The Saints averaged 452 yards per game in their first five games before Payton got injured and had to cede play calling to Carmichael and 474 yards for the final 11 regular-season games after that. The Saints set numerous offensive records that season behind Carmichael, including most yards gained in a season.


and 2012 when Payton was suspended?

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Carmichael handled the play calling in 2012 after Payton was suspended in the spring, and the Saints finished second in total offense, averaging 410.9 yards per game. They finished first in passing offense, averaging 312.3 yards per game.


or 2016 ?

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The Saints started the season with Carmichael unexpectedly calling the plays. It’s unclear how much of the duties were shared between him and Payton, but Carmichael was generally considered the primary play caller until the Saints played the Rams and former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams. Payton called the plays again after that game.

The Saints averaged 422 yards in the 10 games Carmichael appeared to be the main play caller and then 432.7 yards in the remaining six games of the season. They ended up first in total offense and second in scoring offense by the end of the season.




funny all of sudden Carmichael can't coordinate an offense. yall gotta get ya stories straight
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 3:04 pm to
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funny all of sudden Carmichael can't coordinate an offense. yall gotta get ya stories straight


I simply asked who or what is holding the Saints offense back?
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72010 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 3:32 pm to


I think your intention is pretty clear true tiger tales
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 5:32 pm to
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I think your intention is pretty clear true tiger tales


My intention in this OP was pretty clear, allow everyone else to post who or what is holding the Saints offense back. Already gave my view.
Posted by TwoDatBait
Northshore, LA
Member since Jul 2011
5758 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 6:13 pm to
What if the coach himself is holding the offense back??
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 6:18 pm to
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Jameis seems like a good dude imo


Probably....except for the rape shite....

And theft.....

Other than that, he's freaking great.....
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 6:19 pm to
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He did some dumb shite when he was immature


Rape and or sexual assault aren't signs of immaturity, it's signs of being a Psychopath....
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 9/24/22 at 7:10 am to
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What if the coach himself is holding the offense back??


Too much on his plate? Can walk and chew gum at the same time. Maybe he’s meant just to be an assistant?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64322 posts
Posted on 9/24/22 at 3:44 pm to
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Rape and or sexual assault aren't signs of immaturity, it's signs of being a Psychopath....




Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
64513 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 8:15 am to
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we can still bring Jameis along slowly…



Bring him along slowly?

This is his 8th year in the NFL
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