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re: Getting Carr is brilliant
Posted on 3/7/23 at 3:28 pm to pankReb
Posted on 3/7/23 at 3:28 pm to pankReb
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It’s very simple. I want to play for a Super Bowl
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Dalton
Oh baby!
quote:Elite QBs dont just "come along". You have to hit the draft lottery. And in order to do that, you have to suck shite forever and get extremely lucky. Or, you can do what LA did 2 years ago. What Denver did back in 2015. What the Saints did back in 2006... I'll add that by this time next year, the price tag on a QB like Carr will be completely out of reach for a team like the Saints.
might be a better opportunity that comes along
I'm not here to sell anyone on the idea that Carr is elite. I'm saying the division is wide open and his signing likely allows us to coast into the playoffs. That energy helps you a whole lot more than being a garbage small market team with a ton of cap space. I trust the FO to manage the team through the cap issues. Frankly, its beyond arrogant that posters like you assume there's no thoughtful process in place to make that work, and the team will just crater under a single player's contract.
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 3:33 pm
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Posted on 3/7/23 at 3:32 pm to High Life
That's one game
Posted on 3/7/23 at 3:33 pm to Vacherie Saint
Cool. So we get to the playoffs with an dogshit record and then probably lose the first round.
Hell of a season guys
Reminder that we were very close to a playoff berth last season without having to pay a questionable quarterback over $30 million a year.
We’re likely a playoff team with Dalton under center. Unless Carr is “the guy” and can get us deep into the playoffs by taking the team on his back….then it was a bad move.
Hell of a season guys
Reminder that we were very close to a playoff berth last season without having to pay a questionable quarterback over $30 million a year.
We’re likely a playoff team with Dalton under center. Unless Carr is “the guy” and can get us deep into the playoffs by taking the team on his back….then it was a bad move.
Posted on 3/7/23 at 3:34 pm to Vacherie Saint
Kc didn't suck forever lol. They did it smart. Greenbay also did it the smart way.
Posted on 3/7/23 at 3:35 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Frankly, its beyond arrogant that posters like you assume there's no thoughtful process in place to make that work, and the team will just crater under a single player's contract.
The fact that your level of thought makes you believe that the above is my level of thought is a lot more telling than you know.
Posted on 3/7/23 at 3:36 pm to stopitnow1
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Kc didn't suck forever lol. They did it smart. Greenbay also did it the smart way
Some people can’t fathom an organization being run properly.
Posted on 3/7/23 at 3:51 pm to pankReb
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2023 - $35 mil
2024 - $35 mil
2025 - $30 mil.
Did I glance through the thread too fast, are you suggesting that these are his cap hits? His actual cap hits are set to be:
2023 - $7.2M
2024 - $35.7M
2025 - $45.7M
2026 - $55.7M
2027 - $5.7M
Opt out after 2025 that would set his cap hits as followed:
2023 - $7.2M
2024 - $35.7M
2025 - $45.7M
2026 - $11.4M dead money
If they decide to walk after 2024:
2023 - $7.2M
2024 - $35.7M
2025 - $17.1M in dead cap
Obviously, we all know Mickey will restructure his contract next year to spread that $30M, so those dead money figures will change.
Posted on 3/7/23 at 3:57 pm to pankReb
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Dalton would have likely had the same contract that we gave Winston($12-13mil). Cut Winston in June and it saves us $4-5 mil. Sign a different backup for $3-4 or try your luck with drafting Hooker.
There...that just saved us over $20 million this season.
If Dalton is going to sign for $12-13M and Carr's cap hit for 2023 is only $7.2M; you actually cost the team $5-6M in 2023. Now, you did just save a shite load of money in 2024 and 2025
Posted on 3/7/23 at 4:07 pm to tigerdude12
I think he's a horrible signing personally. He's nothing but a dent on cap. Dalton is similar production at bargain bin prices. Carr has more upside obviously but you need a great offensive mind to get the most out of him and Carmichael is not that guy. I predict by the end of the season Saints will regret this deal and don't be surprised if we ain't in the playoffs either.
There's no reason for me to believe Carr will do anything for the Saints. Actually emulates many past moves the Saints made before Payton got here. Got a big QB signing somewhere and they end up always shitting the bed for the Saints. So many in the past. It's the Saints motto.
Overpaid for a mediocre player who with the perfect fit can be a solid QB. Problem is he doesn't have the support system in place at Saints and he's injury prone. Bad signing, imo. If this was a signing with Payton here he likely could've got production out of him similar to Gruden. He's past his athletic prime and has nowhere to go but down.
There's no reason for me to believe Carr will do anything for the Saints. Actually emulates many past moves the Saints made before Payton got here. Got a big QB signing somewhere and they end up always shitting the bed for the Saints. So many in the past. It's the Saints motto.
Overpaid for a mediocre player who with the perfect fit can be a solid QB. Problem is he doesn't have the support system in place at Saints and he's injury prone. Bad signing, imo. If this was a signing with Payton here he likely could've got production out of him similar to Gruden. He's past his athletic prime and has nowhere to go but down.
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 3/7/23 at 4:09 pm to pankReb
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There are likely 8 better QBs in the NFC than Carr.
You’re smoking fricking crack
Posted on 3/7/23 at 4:11 pm to pankReb
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We’re likely a playoff team with Dalton under center.
You can’t tell me you watched Dalton last year and honestly believe this. This is just ignorance
Posted on 3/7/23 at 4:13 pm to WicKed WayZ
True but nobody can watch Carr and say this either. It's very possible he has hit an athletic wall and is nothing but nosediving from this point forward. I'm not sure how anyone can have confidence even if he has some grace left in him the coaching staff here can get it out of him.
Posted on 3/7/23 at 4:28 pm to tigerdude12
quote:This is far from guaranteed. Dennis Allen is still the HC.
We can agree that Carr on the Saints roster, we go at least 10-7, 11-6 and win the division.
I keep seeing people talking about this great defense we have and it was ranked like 28th last year. The offense should improve with Carr but the offensive line is still questionable. Carr doesn't suddenly bring us to the post season even though he's much better than what we've had.
Posted on 3/7/23 at 4:30 pm to pankReb
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We’re likely a playoff team with Dalton under center.
We tried that
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Unless Carr is “the guy” and can get us deep into the playoffs by taking the team on his back….then it was a bad move.
Compared to what? Sticking with Dalton and hoping for a miracle? Drafting a late 1st QB and praying for a miracle? What other options were out there? There were none.
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 3/7/23 at 4:35 pm to saintsfan1977
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keep seeing people talking about this great defense we have and it was ranked like 28th last year.
Wtf? They were ranked 5th in yards per game, and 9th in points per game
Posted on 3/7/23 at 4:36 pm to WicKed WayZ
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You can’t tell me you watched Dalton last year and honestly believe this. This is just ignorance
If Dalton plays the entire season, we likely are in the playoffs. His first few games were spent trying get to speed with the offense. We ended the season a game and a half out of first and that's WITH the Bucs having Brady.
Tell me how our division being down even more next year helps Carr but somehow has no effect on Dalton.
Posted on 3/7/23 at 4:38 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Compared to what? Sticking with Dalton and hoping for a miracle? Drafting a late 1st QB and praying for a miracle? What other options were out there? There were none.
You quite literally just listed options.
Funny how praying for the miracle with Carr is somehow ok though.....
Posted on 3/7/23 at 4:39 pm to saintsfan1977
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have and it was ranked like 28th last year
Do you people even Google before you throw this shite out?
We were 5th overall and 9th in scoring D last year.
Posted on 3/7/23 at 4:45 pm to WicKed WayZ
Top 5 in QB sacks as well.
gave up the 4th fewest TD passes (17)
BUT
30th in interceptions (7)
23rd in fumble recoveries (7)
that's what was lacking. The turnovers.
Other than that, another pretty good year for the D.
gave up the 4th fewest TD passes (17)
BUT
30th in interceptions (7)
23rd in fumble recoveries (7)
that's what was lacking. The turnovers.
Other than that, another pretty good year for the D.
Posted on 3/7/23 at 5:15 pm to Weekend Warrior79
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Wtf? They were ranked 5th in yards per game, and 9th in points per game
We allowed 2200yds rushing
We played 6 games in the weakest conference. Don't believe that shite.
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