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re: For those that honestly believe this is a conspiracy

Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:30 am to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:30 am to
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Which is a legal play (besides the helmet to helmet) if he gets there the same time the ball does

Well too fricking bad it didn't.
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but the camera angle from the sideline makes it look like he got there much earlier than he did.


What drugs are you smoking? Regardless, the two refs had completely different angles. There is no way that excuse holds water. You're embarrassing yourself.
Posted by lsutiger2010
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:33 am to
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Posted by Seeker
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:33 am to
The player for the Rams admitted that he know he was committing a penalty.
Posted by UpToPar
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:34 am to
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Well too fricking bad it didn't.


Right, which is why I have always said that it was a bad no call. Try to keep up.

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Regardless, the two refs had completely different angles. There is no way that excuse holds water.


I'm not excusing the no call. It was bad and it should have been called. My point is, the replay makes it look as though it had to be intentional due to how egregious it was. We all know how the camera angles can be deceiving. If you watch the play in game speed, while still a bad missed call, it isn't nearly as bad as it looks in the slow motion replay from the sideline.
Posted by Andynola
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:36 am to
NFL likely told the officials to hold flags and let players play. No one likes a game with yellow flying everywhere. Probably highlighted calls that would specifically give a team the advantage. Not specific, just let them play.

Rams D played an entirely different game in the 2nd half. Probably noted the lack of calls and adjusted play.

If this is true, Why wouldn't the NFL not just say this? - well im sure the CTE class action attorneys would love to get hold of a memo directing Refs to "let them play". Put that ref on the stand to explain why he didn't call a helmet to helmet. If someone from the front office directed this officiating crew to throw less flags and jeopardize players safety to improve the quality of the game presentation - that would be the NFL ball game forever.
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:36 am to
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Which is a legal play (besides the helmet to helmet)




But other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?
Posted by lsutiger2010
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:37 am to
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Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:37 am to
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When all those calls go against you it’s almost impossible to overcome it.



The Saints didn't have a penalty called on them until 5:00 left in the 3Q

For the game:

Rams 7 penalties 64 yards

Saints 3 penalties 20 yards

Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:40 am to
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He was clearly early, but the camera angle from the sideline makes it look like he got there much earlier than he did


Our camera angle makes it look better for a possible no call

Them looking tight down the line makes it look worse. They are looking at the players collide and the ball isn't even in the picture yet
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Posted by lsutiger2010
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:41 am to
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Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:42 am to
The rams had about 10 obvious calls that were ignored. They were playing dirty. The players admitted it so your point is immediately retarded.

How you can look at that play and imply fairness can be explained one way: you’re trolling
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 9:43 am
Posted by VOR
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:42 am to

Ineptitude, not conspiracy.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:43 am to
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For those that honestly believe this is a conspiracy
Why wait until then to blow a call? Why not call a phantom hold on the saints to prevent them from getting into FG position on that drive?

Also, why not make sure the Rams have home field throughout the playoffs by calling games in their favor during the season?

I’m not sure I understand the logic behind why the NFL wants the Rams in the Super Bowl over the Saints.

It was a blown call, and it was bad, but it really doesn’t make sense that this is some grand conspiracy.

Why did we have 3 penalties for 20 yards the entire game if the refs from the outset were planning to make us lose?

Wouldn't it be better to call a couple of questionable holds or defensive holds along the way that no one would come back on later as opposed to making the worst call possible that everyone would then accuse you of cheating?
Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:43 am to
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The Saints didn't have a penalty called on them until 5:00 left in the 3Q

For the game:

Rams 7 penalties 64 yards

Saints 3 penalties 20 yards


Tgat doesn't mean shite when you have multiple no calls against you.

The obvious PI where our player was bear hugged
No delay of game
The worst no call in the history of the league
Brees getting mauled in the face along with Thomas getting almost tackled resulting in an interception


Your argument doesn't hold weight. Those no calls were in crunch time and are way more severe than your simple penalty count
Posted by klrstix
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:43 am to
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It was a blown call, and it was bad, but it really doesn’t make sense that this is some grand conspiracy.



I am by no means prone to assigning "conspiracy" motives behind things that happen. But at the same time, when 2 different refs (with a possible third ref) in a position to see the play and none of them throw a flag... imo you would be foolishly naive not consider the possibility..

Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:46 am to
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Why did we have 3 penalties for 20 yards the entire game if the refs from the outset were planning to make us lose?


No calls are a lot easier way to screw a team. You take away a down essentially and there's no chance to make it up.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:47 am to
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How you can look at that play and imply fairness can be explained one way: you’re trolling




The focus is not on this single play, rather the fact that the game was somehow rigged or was not called in the Saints' favor. IF you think they ignored calls on the Rams, how do you think the Rams feel to see the Saints only had 3 penalties called on them for 20 yards? The Rams had double the penalties and triple the amount of penalty yards.


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The rams had about 10 obvious calls that were ignored.



So the Rams should have had 17 penalties called on them, and only 3 for the Saints?

There were some no-calls in the Saints favor too. I saw the play clock at :00 on at least 3 occasions.
Posted by UpToPar
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:47 am to
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But at the same time, when 2 different refs (with a possible third ref) in a position to see the play and none of them throw a flag... imo you would be foolishly naive not consider the possibility..


I've considered it, it just doesn't make sense. The refs had plenty of opportunities to make sure the Saints didn't win that game. There's no need to let it come down to that call to decide the game. As I already mentioned, a holding call earlier in that drive to prevent the Saints from getting in FG range makes much more sense.
Posted by VanRIch
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Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:48 am to
HOLY

shite

The play looked obvious and really bad in real time. If there was an example of dangerous, extreme, textbook pass interference, that was it.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Member since Sep 2005
59942 posts
Posted on 1/22/19 at 9:49 am to
Maybe because the saints played cleaner?

What rules say penalties HAVE to be even? Cite them please.

A team could have 40 penalties and still benefit from ref bias depending on how badly they are committing penalties.

The bottom line: in the last three drives of the Saints the Rams were allowed to explicitly hold and interfere with receivers blatantly THREE times, target receivers, and rough the passer.
This post was edited on 1/22/19 at 9:56 am
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