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re: For those on the Shough bandwagon.

Posted on 5/10/25 at 9:23 pm to
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 5/10/25 at 9:23 pm to


Perspect that..
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73904 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 9:30 pm to
quote:

Josh Allen had a 56% completion %, 44 TD and 21 INT in college




Josh Allen had 76 starts (52-24) in the NFL by the time he was 26
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
78555 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 10:32 pm to
This bozo is talking about college stats
Posted by whodat22
Member since Sep 2014
1304 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 10:41 pm to
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So he can be right

This is such a stupid arse thread. Nobody here drafted Shough, but shame on you for being optimistic or excited


This 1000%. So he can come back in a year and say I told you he sucked and was a bad pick when literally no one is saying he's the next Brees or even good for that matter. We are hopeful and optimistic in Moore knows what he's doing over idiots on this board
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
6095 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 11:06 pm to
It’s really a win-win for the saints. If Shough or Rattler show promise then we probably won’t be in position to draft a top QB. If we are picking top 5, I’m not letting a 2nd or 5th round pick stop me from taking my franchise QB next year.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
72193 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 12:35 am to
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Crazy that Lamar is only two years older than Shough for perspective.


Wow
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
11996 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 6:16 am to
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seen something strong to use a second to get him.


You were moving on from Carr. You wanted competition between young (but not green) talent. Shough gives you that. I believe he's older than Rattler
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
41440 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 7:07 am to
Rattler is far more talented than he's given credit for. IF or WHEN he gets time behind a decent OL he'll be great. Kellen understands building the wall.
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4759 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 7:31 am to
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You have 8-9 topics started by you alone that either directly or near directly total fricking bleeding vagina of the shough pick. It’s fricking sad and you are completely off and the Carr situation only validates the need for a ready step in and play now type qb. He has the arm talent, the maturity, the size strength and seems to be a smart and genuine hard worker and leader and you keep fricking crying. Jesus frick


They wont stop crying.
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4759 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 7:35 am to
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It’s really a win-win for the saints. If Shough or Rattler show promise then we probably won’t be in position to draft a top QB. If we are picking top 5, I’m not letting a 2nd or 5th round pick stop me from taking my franchise QB next year.



The moron doenst understand that our QB investments total value contracts of $10 million and $4 million over 4 years, between Shough and Rattler means we are completely felxible in the future.


IE, if Shough or Rattler look more like backups then starters then we will be drafting our future QB possibly again very soon.

We now dont have alot invested in any QB.

Butt I think KMoore works his magic with one of Shough or Rattler and we wont be in that position.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
73919 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 7:37 am to
Wait...Shough is old?
Everyone wants another Shough take?


Well then Happy Mothers Day to all you WHO DAT Moms!
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4759 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 7:41 am to
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Loves soph year he dominated the competition. Think they had players graduate and a coaching change. And he left as a junior. Same for Stafford, who played much tougher competition. And he started as a true freshman. Cousins started 3 full seasons. Purdy was a rare 4 full season starter.



Love didnt dominate and it was Utah State.

Stafford never dominated in college and had 39 total games played.


Cousins/purdy also did not dominate in college.

Cousins 45 games.

Purdy 48 games.


Shough 42 games. Youre just dumb and too stupid to use actual stats.


In summary, shut up you fricking idiot Karen.
This post was edited on 5/11/25 at 7:41 am
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4759 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 7:46 am to
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I'm not necessarily on the Shough bandwagon or the Rattler bandwagon. I'm on the whoever can help us bandwagon. ETA The FO must have seen something strong to use a second to get him.


The OP and the Karens on here lack insight.


Everything is All (Shough bandwagon!!!) or Nothing (Shough is trash pick/we suck!!) for these idiots.

Insight tells you (1) KMoore got his guy and has talent in a young qb room with Shough/Rattler and (2) Carr retired at a good time for us, giving cap releif, etc.


We now have an open slate and not a lot invested at QB.

Liking Shough and the current status quo is not the same as declaring Shough a hall of famer.


But instead of being happy about it these pussies stilly cry like Karens.
This post was edited on 5/11/25 at 7:48 am
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73904 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 8:17 am to
quote:

This bozo is talking about college stats


I know

There’s no college comp for Shough bc he was 25 years old competing in college. Can you imagine Josh Allen at 25 playing at Wyoming? Lamar Jackson had 6 years in the NFL and an MVP

Tough comps. Especially since those guys can win games with their legs if the passing isn’t there. They still have a singular dominant trait to lean on
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
35504 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 8:24 am to
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How many qbs in history that didn’t dominate in college end up being great in the pros.


Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Philip Rivers, Brett Favre, Phil Simms, Kurt Warner, etc., etc. etc.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
19097 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 8:47 am to
He is from the Covid class and the NIL class. He took advantage of the unique situation and you will probably never see another player like him. With NIL, it will be more common for QBs to be 23 to 24 coming out. Ewers just proved it is smarter to take NIL money than enter the draft unless you are a bonified top 10 pick.
Posted by P bean
br
Member since Dec 2006
4759 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 8:52 am to
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There’s no college comp for Shough bc he was 25 years old competing in college.


The obvious comp is Michael Pennix if he only played one year at washingnton.

Youre too uninformed or purposefully ignorarnt, to know or acknowledge that Pennix had two acl tears to the same knee and 4 injury riddled seasons at Indiana. Pennix literally was hurt for 4 seasons.

Pennix also had 6 years in college and played in 48 games compared to Shough at 42 and 7 years.

Also Shough waited behind Herbert to start. So it was basically 42 games in 6 years. Shough had a covid year and 3 inj shortened seasons. Meaning he had less injuries than Pennix.











Pennix had more acclaim/heisman recognition, and was a 1st round pick, but age, injuries, time in college, everything is there for comparison all the way up to both surprising with 4.6 40 times.

Shough was a clear top two round pick, and everyone is noting how likely he wouldnt have made it out the second round.


Now stfu dumbass Karen.
This post was edited on 5/11/25 at 8:53 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465506 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 8:56 am to
quote:

The obvious comp is Michael Pennix if he only played one year at washingnton.

That's a major if

Pennix also had 2 dominant years compared to Shough's 0

Being younger, mind you

quote:

Pennix also had 6 years in college and played in 48 games compared to Shough at 42 and 7 years.

This is a huge difference, but I'm not shocked you don't understand why that is.

quote:

Pennix had more acclaim/heisman recognition

Because he was a much better player, while doing it younger.

Your comparison is literally nothing like Shough.

He's younger

He started a lot more games in college in less time, with major success (Shough had none)

He had 2 dominant years in college while Shough had 0, which means he had one dominant year 3 years younger than Shough is now

He was a clear upgrade from the QB who came before him while Shough was not

And, mind you, Pennix was himself over-drafted.
This post was edited on 5/11/25 at 8:57 am
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73904 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 9:00 am to
Yes, the obvious comp to Shough is one of the best QBs in the country for two years running

Shough was 5th in his conference in yards and TDs, 10th in comp%, 6th in rating. Not even close to the best in his conference and you’re comping him to one of the nations best over multiple seasons

You’re too dumb for you own good. Michael Pennix act like you watch ball at least beany
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119688 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 9:12 am to
How about you wait until he plays and quit crying about your mock draft
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