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First round busts - who is accountable?

Posted on 9/20/12 at 5:57 pm
Posted by TigerPimpNationTrank
NOLA Raised / Northshore Livin'
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 9/20/12 at 5:57 pm
I give kudos to the Saints for finding diamonds in the rough in Graham, Evans, Moore, Hartley, etc...but sooner or later having 1st round busts year after year will catch up to you.

Who is being held accountable for the following first round picks who are not even close to living up to their hype and potential

W. Smith
Bush
Meachem
Ellis
Jenkins
Robinson
Jordan
Ingram

These guys might have 2-3 Pro Bowls between them. To me, that constitutes a bust and something wrong with talent evaluation.

Posted by LakeViewLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 9/20/12 at 6:03 pm to
Posted by Souljah
Audubon Park VIA Kingston,Jamaica
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 9/20/12 at 6:15 pm to
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Bush
Meachem


They might not have lived up to their potential, mon, but come on. Both were more than solid role players on our Super Bowl run. For that they are worth their first round pick.

You could argue the same for Will Smith, plus his longevity has to count for something.

I agree on Ellis,Jenkins,Robinson,Jordan,and Ingram though.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/20/12 at 6:17 pm to
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W. Smith


Not a bust, just getting to the end of his career.
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Bush

Not a bust. He's doing well in Miami.
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Meachem

Not a bust, doing well in San Diego
quote:

Ellis

Decent argument for a 'bust' but I don't think he's a total bust.
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Jenkins

Too early to call a bust.
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Robinson


Are you serious?
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Jordan

Not a bust, great in the run, never was billed as a pass rusher
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Ingram

Wrong kind of back for the Saints' system, don't think he's a bust in another system where he gets more carries.



So, in your opinion, a bust is a 1st rounder that doesn't consistently make it to the pro bowl? There are a LOOOOOT of busts around the league if that's the case.
This post was edited on 9/20/12 at 6:18 pm
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 9/20/12 at 6:18 pm to
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W. Smith

Anyone who thinks Will Smith is a bust is stupid.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 6:21 pm to
I don't think I could call any of those busts.

You should take a look at what other teams have drafted in the first round and compare careers.

The Saints are actually pretty good.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
80263 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 6:25 pm to
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I don't think I could call any of those busts.

You can definitely call Sedrick Ellis a bust. Not to Sully's level but he's the highest drafted player on the team. Would anybody watching him play have guessed that?
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/20/12 at 6:52 pm to
Loomis is accountable, and as such, he's been suspended for the first 8 games of the season.
Posted by TigerPimpNationTrank
NOLA Raised / Northshore Livin'
Member since Nov 2005
3308 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 6:55 pm to
Meachem...doing well in San Diego?

The guy had two reception in week one and zero catches last week. Hardly doing well.

Posted by Souljah
Audubon Park VIA Kingston,Jamaica
Member since Apr 2012
4269 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 6:57 pm to
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Loomis is accountable, and as such, he's been suspended for the first 8 games of the season.


Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
42710 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 7:16 pm to
PRob is the biggest loser on that list
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 7:18 pm to
P-Rob was playing really well towards the end of last season, but he looks like he's having trouble (as is the rest of the defense) adjusting to the zone coverage scheme. He still has time to develop into a solid player.

Ellis is the biggest bust imo as of right now.
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 7:29 pm to
Did Saints talk just time travel? I see this thread on the main screen with just three post, but I refresh the original thread, and my post is still there, but I click on the other thread, and it's just 3 replies.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 7:42 pm to
We are much better with offensive talent but these are not Shawn knight Russell the felon exk slablen I can't kick a 18 yard fg to beat Atlanta bust
Posted by djrunner
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
5590 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 8:16 pm to
Every player we have selected in the 1st since Will is not only still playing but STARTING in the NFL.
That's amazing.
I would bet that is the best in the NFL over the same time frame...I'm too lazy to look it up.
I would dare say we have done closer to the top of the NFL...
None or these guys are bust, what a stupid thread.
Posted by hungry hippo
Member since Sep 2012
102 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 8:27 pm to
Jordan has been playing really well so far this year. he just needed time to get adjusted to the speed of the game. Bush may not have been worth the #2 pick but he played huge role in our superbowl run. Ingram was a pick i was not happy with and so far has been disappointing. Meachem did his job when he was here but probably not a 1st round choice. something needs to be one, most of our 1st round picks have been average at best, or some are absolute bums like Smith. Need to do a better job of scouting and evaluatiing talent
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290695 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 9:28 pm to
you dont know what bust means... idiot
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 9:38 pm to
I see 1, maybe 2 busts on that entire list
Posted by LooseCannon22282
South Alabama Fan
Member since May 2008
35929 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 9:41 pm to
quote:

Ellis


has been a disappointment. But a bust? No.

Jonathon Sullivan, now there was a bust.
Posted by LooseCannon22282
South Alabama Fan
Member since May 2008
35929 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 9:46 pm to
quote:

Jordan
Ingram


its only their second season. Go take another bong rip.
This post was edited on 9/20/12 at 9:47 pm
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