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re: Ed Werder says Saints out of Desean Sweepstakes

Posted on 3/31/14 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 2:00 pm to
The money is not an issue. IF we want him we'll make it work.

I believe Ed's "report" is the first even linking us to him and it's in a no kinda way.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63026 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 2:44 pm to
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The money is not an issue. IF we want him we'll make it work.



Of course it's an issue. Don't confuse the fact that we could make room with it being a non issue. Money is most certainly part of this equation.

But, when you factor in what we probably wanted to spend on a vet WR, with the future plans of the organization (Graham long term), Jordan long term, etc. and combine it with the risk that comes along with Jackson you can draw a conclusion.

Personally, I think anything over 4-5M and we pass. It would have to be that significant of a discount off of his true value were there no issues.

Personally, reading between the lines, he's going to get more than that.
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 2:45 pm
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 2:53 pm to
I'm not saying it's a non factor. I'm saying money isn't going to be the thing that keeps us from signing him if we really want him.

Perhaps issue was a bit vague. Character is a much bigger factor with him. If we felt the value was right and the characters issues are overblown we would make room.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
74444 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

Of course it's an issue. Don't confuse the fact that we could make room with it being a non issue. Money is most certainly part of this equation.


Someone gets it
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63026 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 3:14 pm to
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I'm not saying it's a non factor. I'm saying money isn't going to be the thing that keeps us from signing him if we really want him.

Perhaps issue was a bit vague. Character is a much bigger factor with him. If we felt the value was right and the characters issues are overblown we would make room.



I just don't think you can separate the two...nor can you separate the big picture plans we have with our money.

Unless he's going for a bargain, I don't think we consider him...even with his talent. Having said that, if his value were somehow so low that he's in the 4-5M range, I think we go after him...even with the character risk.
Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
31637 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 3:16 pm to
You're only arguing this because of your name
Posted by bryken89
GD
Member since Apr 2009
467 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 3:21 pm to
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Desean Jackson to Pelicans. Book it.

I see what you did there. Can he play the 2? Or will he be coming off the bench?
Posted by bonethug0108
Avondale
Member since Mar 2013
12690 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 3:27 pm to
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I just don't think you can separate the two
I wasn't trying to separate them. I was trying to say that IF the Saints wanted him they would find a way to make the money work.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63026 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 3:30 pm to
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I wasn't trying to separate them. I was trying to say that IF the Saints wanted him they would find a way to make the money work.



I agree with that (in fact I explicitly agreed with it above)...but I think it's off point.

The real question is whether or not the Saints are interested. IMO, the Saints aren't interested unless they were getting Jackson at somewhere around 4-5M / yr. If I'm right, the reports that were aren't in the running are probably very accurate.


Posted by ffhouston
The Woodlands
Member since Sep 2007
4063 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 3:35 pm to
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We probably weren't very in to begin with.

Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
48562 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 3:59 pm to
Trade up a few slots and draft OBJ.

Same player without the gang headaches.
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 3:59 pm
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 4:49 pm to
#Deseanwatch2014 is still on

Werders a hack anyway
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 4:50 pm
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32289 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 5:00 pm to
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I see what you did there. Can he play the 2? Or will he be coming off the bench?



monty doesn't know how to use him. he'll play 20 minutes, 10-15 less per game than brian roberts.
Posted by infantry1026
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
8265 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 6:15 pm to
Good....thug POS anyway
Posted by Mshargois3
NOLA
Member since Jan 2014
1664 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 6:40 pm to
If he's a thug then there are a lot of thugs in the league man I swear.
Posted by infantry1026
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
8265 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 6:48 pm to
He has gang ties......that would put you in a thug category.

Don't want to be perceived as a thug......be careful of the company you keep.


And to answer your statement.......there are a lot of thugs in the league today; this is due to the premium being placed on athleticism instead of intangibles
Posted by Mshargois3
NOLA
Member since Jan 2014
1664 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 6:53 pm to
Yea I was gonna say many athletes have gang ties, his just are now in the public.
Posted by Sophandros
Victoria Concordia Crescit
Member since Feb 2005
45219 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 7:06 pm to
He should have been born in a different neighborhood. Remind him to do that next time.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63026 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:59 pm to
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He should have been born in a different neighborhood. Remind him to do that next time.



Are you saying it's ok if he has gang ties because of the neighborhood where he was born?
Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
31637 posts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:09 pm to
That really depends what "gang ties" are.

I used to drink with people who are definitely not what you'd consider model citizens.
Does that make me a thug?
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