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Drew went 7-9 three years in a row with Payton

Posted on 3/7/23 at 10:46 am
Posted by chalmationnation
Member since Nov 2021
211 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 10:46 am
Why did that happen? Oh yeah, because our defense was awful. Give the man a chance with a good defense. It feels like we aré Minnesota-tier now with a middle of the road qb and a solid team for him to work with. We get into the dance and anything can happen…just ask US the last 4 years Payton and Brees were here.
Posted by OneSaintsFan
St. George, La
Member since Jan 2009
1929 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 10:49 am to
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Why did that happen? Oh yeah, because our defense was awful. Give the man a chance with a good defense.


Bingo. I'm excited about the potential we have now with an anchor at QB
Posted by Beauw
Blanchard
Member since Sep 2007
4327 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 10:56 am to
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Oh yeah, because our defense was awful.


So true, I felt terrible for Brees, dude was in his prime, lighting it up and we just couldn't stop anybody.

He had to throw four TDs a game just to keep games close.
Posted by Geaux14999
Gonzales
Member since Nov 2012
172 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 11:00 am to
The negative Nancy posters are too lazy to look at overall defense in Carr's 9 years, not to mention their horrible draft history. The dude literally NEVER had a defense inside the top 20 and more seasons than not they were 28th or worse. They hired a commentator and supposed draft guru as GM and made it worse.
Posted by lgtiger
LA
Member since May 2005
1542 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 11:00 am to
Didn’t he throw a lot of picks trying to keep up back then?
Posted by Load Toad
Haughton, LA
Member since Aug 2008
2602 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 11:12 am to
Payton is better coach today than when he was here.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61082 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 11:14 am to
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The negative Nancy posters are too lazy to look at overall defense in Carr's 9 years, not to mention their horrible draft history. The dude literally NEVER had a defense inside the top 20 and more seasons than not they were 28th


In the 3 year stretch mentioned Brees was putting up absolute monster stats. Obviously I wouldn’t expect Carr to do the same but his stats are good but not great with bad defenses.

Under normal circumstances I’d be fine with this signing, I don’t think Carr is bad and he could have the Saints contending for the playoffs since the division is so bad. But ultimately you still have cap issues that keep getting kicked down the road. At some point that does hinder you from getting to the next level, where the Saints were from 2017-2020.
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 1:02 pm
Posted by Geaux14999
Gonzales
Member since Nov 2012
172 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 11:22 am to
You just can't expect a coach/GM to accept a tank when their job depends on winning. They're doing whatever they can to put out a good product or Allen is done and he knows it.

When they began kicking that can, I don't know if you can stop kicking it. There's so much dead money tied up everywhere is there anything that can be done in the next 10 years to get back to normalcy?
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61082 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 1:11 pm to
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You just can't expect a coach/GM to accept a tank when their job depends on winning


You don’t have to. They were 7-10 with Dalton and Winston last year and of not for the blown MNF game at Tampa they would have been playing for the playoffs the last week. That aside at 7-10 they would have the 10th pick, which you could get a QB at 10 or move up a couple of spots had you not traded it last year. You do not need a decade to clear cap issues, a year or two of letting it play out would suffice. Would be easier with good drafting and again not trading away picks to move up for anything besides a QB
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
73284 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 1:47 pm to
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You just can't expect a coach/GM to accept a tank when their job depends on winning


Sure I can. All the coach/GM has to do is look what it did for the Dolphins.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12619 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 1:50 pm to
A lawsuit?
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
11106 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 1:52 pm to
He racked up those 5K passing yard seasons tho.
Posted by Geaux14999
Gonzales
Member since Nov 2012
172 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 1:59 pm to
What exactly did it do for the Dolphins? They're not close to a Super Bowl team. And McDaniel wasn't the coach during their bad seasons.
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
73284 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 2:02 pm to
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What exactly did it do for the Dolphins?


They’re a very competitive team as long as Tua is conscious.

They went from 5 wins to 10 in one offseason. They built a solid foundation.
Posted by Geaux14999
Gonzales
Member since Nov 2012
172 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 2:18 pm to
How often is he conscious though? They're bottom dwellers without a QB as they have no backup plan or running game to lean on.
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
73284 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 2:25 pm to
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They're bottom dwellers without a QB


As are most teams in the NFL.

You can’t hold Tua’s injuries against the decision to tank.
Posted by BRL79
Member since Mar 2014
3138 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 2:29 pm to
Thank you for this. There's some real clowns in here
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
73284 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 2:31 pm to
Agreed. The need to compare every new QB to drew Brees is definitely clown material.
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